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YouTubeAnother thought I just had was one that I saw once in Vienna at an outdoor film festival. They projected movies onto a big blank building wall every night for about two weeks straight. Maybe the upper half of the Ohio Theatre wall could be used for that!??
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Central City Recording
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The band shell at the Scioto Mile will be much smaller, more for intimate performances. The Ohio Theater stage will be massive, for big national shows. Right now, there are events almost every weekend in the summer that require stages to be brought in and set up. We currently have no amphitheaters at all on the downtown side of the river. So yeah, I think there's definitely room for both, and maybe even another.
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Wickham
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Central City Recording wrote >>
The band shell at the Scioto Mile will be much smaller, more for intimate performances. The Ohio Theater stage will be massive, for big national shows. Right now, there are events almost every weekend in the summer that require stages to be brought in and set up. We currently have no amphitheaters at all on the downtown side of the river. So yeah, I think there's definitely room for both, and maybe even another.Seems logical. I hope they are successful in booking it often with concerts. It will definitely help out the area greatly.
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Packards Ghost
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Muswell Hillbilly. Let’s get this thread back on target. I completely agree with you. This project is off course. I’ve been gone from the city for a year. When I left, I was a big supporter of tearing the vacant, fortress City Center down and replacing it with a vibrant mixed use development appropriate for downtown. The proposed Columbus Commons concept, at least as I understood it from the plans at the time (http://www.columbusunderground.com/guy-worley-answers-your-city-center-questions), had a smaller park surrounded by new development and streets and alleys, including a reconnected Town Street. Now I come back and this is where we are at?! http://www.columbusunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/plan-large.jpg What happened?
What happened to the planned future buildings around the park? The Dispatch and others are now making comparisons to Bryant Park, but Bryant Park doesn’t back up to the rear ends of buildings? The rears of the existing buildings along the north and east sides of this park were not designed to be front doors! The original Columbus Commons plans showed future buildings here. That provided a focus and reason d’etre for the park, making it more manageable and providing it with four active sides. Now we are relying on a band shell to give it purpose and character? As currently shown, we’re back to looking at blank walls on these sides (Fifth/Third, Ohio Theater, Hyatt, US Bank, etc.) just like we had with City Center. We might as well repaint the brown city skyline back on the rears of these buildings. With more blank façade, we can fit more of the city skyline. What an improvement!
Secondly, the Town Street reconnection is gone. What a horrible missed opportunity. We can’t let this slip by. The Mayor and the city’s planners talk about making downtown’s streets more livable, fixing past mistakes, and making more streets like Gay Street. Well Town Street has (had?) the potential to be the “next Gay Streetâ€Â, connecting the riverfront all the way to Grant Hospital, the Library, and the Town-Franklin neighborhood. Hell, the Riversouth Plan talks all about connecting downtown with the riverfront. Don’t kid yourself for a minute that a pedestrian walk is the same as a great street. Imagine Gay Street as a pedestrian promenade and tell me how successful it would be. Answer: it wouldn’t be.
If the City/CDDC didn’t have the money to do this project right (i.e. reinforce the underground garage to allow some buildings above and return Town Street back through), they should have waited. I don’t see a pressing timeline need to get this project done and sacrifice its potential and the surrounding neighborhood potential quality for another generation. Let’s take the time to get this right.
MH what do you propose to get this project back on track?
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Muswell Hillbilly
Hellbranch run/Pleasant Corners
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Packards Ghost wrote >>
Muswell Hillbilly. Let’s get this thread back on target. I completely agree with you. This project is off course. I’ve been gone from the city for a year. When I left, I was a big supporter of tearing the vacant, fortress City Center down and replacing it with a vibrant mixed use development appropriate for downtown. The proposed Columbus Commons concept, at least as I understood it from the plans at the time (http://www.columbusunderground.com/guy-worley-answers-your-city-center-questions), had a smaller park surrounded by new development and streets and alleys, including a reconnected Town Street. Now I come back and this is where we are at?! http://www.columbusunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/plan-large.jpg What happened?
What happened to the planned future buildings around the park? The Dispatch and others are now making comparisons to Bryant Park, but Bryant Park doesn’t back up to the rear ends of buildings? The rears of the existing buildings along the north and east sides of this park were not designed to be front doors! The original Columbus Commons plans showed future buildings here. That provided a focus and reason d’etre for the park, making it more manageable and providing it with four active sides. Now we are relying on a band shell to give it purpose and character? As currently shown, we’re back to looking at blank walls on these sides (Fifth/Third, Ohio Theater, Hyatt, US Bank, etc.) just like we had with City Center. We might as well repaint the brown city skyline back on the rears of these buildings. With more blank façade, we can fit more of the city skyline. What an improvement!
Secondly, the Town Street reconnection is gone. What a horrible missed opportunity. We can’t let this slip by. The Mayor and the city’s planners talk about making downtown’s streets more livable, fixing past mistakes, and making more streets like Gay Street. Well Town Street has (had?) the potential to be the “next Gay Streetâ€Â, connecting the riverfront all the way to Grant Hospital, the Library, and the Town-Franklin neighborhood. Hell, the Riversouth Plan talks all about connecting downtown with the riverfront. Don’t kid yourself for a minute that a pedestrian walk is the same as a great street. Imagine Gay Street as a pedestrian promenade and tell me how successful it would be. Answer: it wouldn’t be.
If the City/CDDC didn’t have the money to do this project right (i.e. reinforce the underground garage to allow some buildings above and return Town Street back through), they should have waited. I don’t see a pressing timeline need to get this project done and sacrifice its potential and the surrounding neighborhood potential quality for another generation. Let’s take the time to get this right.
MH what do you propose to get this project back on track?Wow! I propose finding a person or persons who have more power than I do to communicate these concerns and ideas to the city in a well organized fashion so we don't waste this opportunity. I have no connections to the powers that be. I haven't heard anything about the buildings being removed from the plan. I know the money is lacking for new structures on the site right know and they are supposed to be phased in over a period of several years. How about a statue of the greatest architect from Columbus Frank Packard!!!!!!! It would be a fitting tribute.
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Wickham
German Village
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At the Downtown planning session this past week they said that the surrounding buildings are still a go, but just on hold until developers can afford to do it. I never heard anyone there say it was "Dead" and never going to happen. It's just a fact that in these economic times there weren't able to secure any developers.. I totally agree that the back of the walls were not meant to be a "front" (much like many other buildings have ended up downtown) so thats why I think we need to do something with them specifically.
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ZHC
101 East Main Street, Downtown
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Packards Ghost wrote >>
Secondly, the Town Street reconnection is gone. What a horrible missed opportunity. We can’t let this slip by. The Mayor and the city’s planners talk about making downtown’s streets more livable, fixing past mistakes, and making more streets like Gay Street.
It's an engineering problem apparently. According to Capitol South and CDDC, the garage below is unable to bear the static load from vehicular traffic. How much $$ it would take to address this, I have not seen mentioned anywhere.
As for the other buildings, they never were intended to be built right away. That was a popular misconception, probably due to the fact that all the renders tended to include them as if they were being built simultaneously as the park. But the language of the press releases made the time table pretty clear.
The time frame I've heard quoted for the buildings from the get go is 2015 or beyond depending on market conditions.
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