Walker
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Cleveland Casino Rendering of Planned Building
On November 12, 2009 By Cleveland Casino
Cleveland Casino Rendering of Planned Building
Of course this is just a proposal of what the Cleveland Casino may or may not look like. There is still plenty of designing to do.
Core_Models
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So we still don't know if Cleveland is doing a hotel? I know Cincy and Columbus aren't.
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Core_Models wrote >>
So we still don't know if Cleveland is doing a hotel? I know Cincy and Columbus aren't.
Cleveland is not doing a hotel. The casino will be tied into Tower City which already has a Ritz Carleton Hotel and the historic Cleveland Renaissance Hotel on Public Square. Other hotels including the Mariott, Hyatt, etc. are also within walking distance to the proposed Casino.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/mt-preview-71c3eaf9eb84919b4b9a102ff24de70e420d841d.html
byJody
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Cleveland's casino will be a $600 million investment.
That's what casino developer Dan Gilbert's representative told the crowd of more than 100 at a public dialogue on casino design, held at Cleveland's City Club Friday evening.
Len Komoroski, representing Gilbert's Rock Ventures LLC, said that Gilbert and his partners want to make sure "this is a first class destination and entity. We are committed to investing more than $600 million here in the Cleveland casino project."
Walker
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Essential Questions: Will Cleveland Casino Serve Liquor 24 Hours a Day?
POSTED BY VINCE GRZEGOREK ON MON, APR 19, 2010
Two great tastes that taste great together.
One of the 2,352 reasons casinos are great is that you can grab yourself a drink in the wee hours of the morning as you double down just one more time at the blackjack table. A stiff little double whiskey makes the losses a smidgen better or at least a little justifiable. Hey, I just lost $200 but I got drunk! Wait, it's 4 a.m., I gotta get out of here.
Walker
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Dan Gilbert postpones opening of Cleveland casino to no earlier than 2013
By Reginald Fields, The Plain Dealer
April 28, 2010, 9:00AM
Cleveland Cavaliers majority owner Dan Gilbert has quietly pushed back the opening of his Cleveland casino by as much as a year.
That means that Northeast Ohio is likely to be the last area of the state to get a casino and that the money and jobs promised to the economically stressed city and Cuyahoga County won't be arriving as quickly as expected.
READ MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/04/cleveland_casino_opening_pushe.html
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I hear Cleveland and Cincinnati are both having their casinos downtown. Is are downtown always going to look underdeveloped compared to theirs? I know the argument of quality of living and all that can be brought up for our residents in the arena district but how many visitors/tourists are really going to come to Columbus's west side? lol. And in the future when the 3-C transit gets built it's going to be further from the proposed station as well.
I enjoy our quality of living here but sometimes I don't know if we build with the bigger picture in sight. And the poor ma and pa shops aren't going to be able to compete with the restaurants that will be in the building.
Walker
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columbusyuppie wrote >>
I hear Cleveland and Cincinnati are both having their casinos downtown. Is are downtown always going to look underdeveloped compared to theirs?
I don't think they currently do look underdeveloped, but I guess that depends on how you're measuring things. Either way, I don't think having a Hollywood Casino at the proposed Arena District site is going to really make much of a visual impact in terms of how things look from a development standpoint. A new one-story building tucked somewhat off the beaten path isn't going to add a whole lot visually for most people.
I'm not sure if the same holds true for the Cleveland & Cincy casino though, as they sound like much different proposals than the one for Columbus and I'm not quite as familiar with their exact locations in relation to their Downtown cores.
columbusyuppie wrote >>
I know the argument of quality of living and all that can be brought up for our residents in the arena district but how many visitors/tourists are really going to come to Columbus's west side? lol.
Casino gamblers will go to a casino to gamble no matter where it's located.
columbusyuppie wrote >>
And in the future when the 3-C transit gets built it's going to be further from the proposed station as well.
People who live in Cleveland or Cincinnati will have their own casinos, so there's no need to travel to Columbus to go to a Casino, thus no real need for casino placement to be near the 3C station in Columbus.
Walker
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Nope, we've never been given a rendering. Just told that it would be a one-story building with an attached parking deck, no hotel and Penn's "Hollywood Casino" branding:
http://www.columbusunderground.com/proposed-casino-to-be-branded-as-hollywood-casino
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Walker wrote >>
columbusyuppie wrote >>
I hear Cleveland and Cincinnati are both having their casinos downtown. Is are downtown always going to look underdeveloped compared to theirs?I don't think they currently do look underdeveloped, but I guess that depends on how you're measuring things. Either way, I don't think having a Hollywood Casino at the proposed Arena District site is going to really make much of a visual impact in terms of how things look from a development standpoint. A new one-story building tucked somewhat off the beaten path isn't going to add a whole lot visually for most people.
I'm not sure if the same holds true for the Cleveland & Cincy casino though, as they sound like much different proposals than the one for Columbus and I'm not quite as familiar with their exact locations in relation to their Downtown cores.columbusyuppie wrote >>
I know the argument of quality of living and all that can be brought up for our residents in the arena district but how many visitors/tourists are really going to come to Columbus's west side? lol.Casino gamblers will go to a casino to gamble no matter where it's located.
columbusyuppie wrote >>
And in the future when the 3-C transit gets built it's going to be further from the proposed station as well.People who live in Cleveland or Cincinnati will have their own casinos, so there's no need to travel to Columbus to go to a Casino, thus no real need for casino placement to be near the 3C station in Columbus.
Point well taken Walker but if I were a gambler (maybe even from another state) I'd look to gamble in an Ohio city that is close to areas with other amenities, restaurants and other entertainment. I'm not necessarily for it being in the AD but I think it could've been a little more closer to downtown. Especially since the 3-C transit system is supposed to eventually connect to a line from Chicago (by way of CLE). Or even if the CMH airline carriers has special airfare to Columbus for the casino. If there are 4 casinos in our state we should definitely look to be the best one.
Since we're definitely going to have one I just want us to have one that attracts visitors to the best area of our city. I mean lets be honest, the West side isn't giving us nice city living. I'm just not sure the Delphi and West side can handle entertaining guests from outside the state. I do hope it attracts development over there.
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columbusyuppie wrote >>
If there are 4 casinos in our state we should definitely look to be the best one.
If we were getting a Casino that resembled Cleveland's I might have actually voted for it and wanted it in the Arena District. But unfortunately, that's not what we're getting. We're getting a slot-machine factory, not a "vegas" style Casino.
columbusyuppie wrote >>
Since we're definitely going to have one I just want us to have one that attracts visitors to the best area of our city.
Sorry, but that's not what Penn is proposing.
Anyway, I digress. This thread is about the Cleveland Casino, not ours.
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If we were getting a Casino that resembled Cleveland's I might have actually voted for it and wanted it in the Arena District. But unfortunately, that's not what we're getting. We're getting a slot-machine factory, not a "vegas" style Casino.
I totally agree. I would have too. This just keeps getting more frustrating.
columbusyuppie
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Walker wrote >>
columbusyuppie wrote >>
If there are 4 casinos in our state we should definitely look to be the best one.If we were getting a Casino that resembled Cleveland's I might have actually voted for it and wanted it in the Arena District. But unfortunately, that's not what we're getting. We're getting a slot-machine factory, not a "vegas" style Casino.
columbusyuppie wrote >>
Since we're definitely going to have one I just want us to have one that attracts visitors to the best area of our city.Sorry, but that's not what Penn is proposing.
So is this casino going to attract some high rollers or broke jokers with quarters? Why not put this place in Franklinton or near the peninsula with a boardwalk? I mean The Police headquarters is just across the river. With that proposed pedestrian bridge and broad street bridge we could've kept that place in check. (If they think it will create violence). Or even place it right beside the Veterans Memorial, that way you'd have concert space near gambling and a possible boardwalk/bridge that was proposed by COSI.
Walker
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columbusyuppie wrote >>
So is this casino going to attract some high rollers or broke jokers with quarters?
I don't think a quarter will fit into the nickel slots. ;)
columbusyuppie wrote >> Why not put this place in Franklinton or near the peninsula with a boardwalk?
Because Penn National wrote exact locations into their amendment to our State Constitution that we voted on and passed. Which is why we have to have another state-wide vote to re-amend the Constitution to move it.
Talking about alternative locations at this point is somewhat pointless. Unless you're planning on drafting a third constitutional amendment. ;)
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Walker wrote >>
columbusyuppie wrote >>
So is this casino going to attract some high rollers or broke jokers with quarters?I don't think a quarter will fit into the nickel slots. ;)
columbusyuppie wrote >> Why not put this place in Franklinton or near the peninsula with a boardwalk?
Because Penn National wrote exact locations into their amendment to our State Constitution that we voted on and passed. Which is why we have to have another state-wide vote to re-amend the Constitution to move it.
Talking about alternative locations at this point is somewhat pointless. Unless you're planning on drafting a third constitutional amendment. ;)
Yeah I know, I just feel like they are pushing this down our throats. I really hope the City of Columbus handles this well!
Nickels? LOL didn't know that was an option. So the question is.... Will you do a story on the casino when/b4 it opens? lol I hope they give you access to an interview b4 they open just so us CUers can have a 1000 post thread. Can't wait for that.
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