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I SAY HOORAY !!! Since Poindexter Village has been emptied the quality of life in the Broad / Long / Ohio / Champion area has dramatically improved . Gone are the gunshots , street corner drug deals , street people , prostitutes , random thefts , loud banging music , speeding cars and helicopter fly overs . I , for one , hope they raze the buildings and put that property to a productive use - much better than warehousing crimminal gang elements .
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Posted 9 months ago # -
Neutzy
North Side
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Poindexter Village qualifies for the National Register of Historic Places. It represents important communities and histories that should be respected as much as those of German village or Victorian Village. It was the first public housing project in Ohio and the 3rd in the nation. It embodies a belief that no human being should have to live in slums; that we all deserve safe, decent, and affordable housing. Poindexter is nationally-significant. Franklin Roosevelt even payed it a visit shortly after it opened. Poindexter is locally-significant. It was named after an influential early 20th century Columbus minister who was the first City Councilmember of color. Further, many of our city's most interesting and beloved residents lived in Poindexter and celebrate Poindexter, like Aminah Robinson. http://www.aminahsworld.org/see/neighborhoods.php
Posted 5 months ago # -
Stephen43215
Downtown
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Im all for saving and restoring buildings but honestly the projects are a huge eyesore to the community! I live 2 blocks from this area and to me its hideous! I want the area to be redeveloped but lets hope they tear these buildings down! the best thing about everyone moving out is that Ohio Ave has felt more safe and is more quite without the loud music blasting from the street.
Posted 5 months ago # -
misskitty
Columbus
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Neutzy said:
Poindexter Village qualifies for the National Register of Historic Places. It represents important communities and histories that should be respected as much as those of German village or Victorian Village. It was the first public housing project in Ohio and the 3rd in the nation. It embodies a belief that no human being should have to live in slums; that we all deserve safe, decent, and affordable housing. Poindexter is nationally-significant. Franklin Roosevelt even payed it a visit shortly after it opened. Poindexter is locally-significant. It was named after an influential early 20th century Columbus minister who was the first City Councilmember of color. Further, many of our city's most interesting and beloved residents lived in Poindexter and celebrate Poindexter, like Aminah Robinson. http://www.aminahsworld.org/see/neighborhoods.phpAre you serious? You do realize that most of the public housing is being demolished a crossed the country because it does not work. It does not embody that no human should live in the slums because it usually turns into the slums…
I might catch some opposition for this but you can see with this development and others like Cabrini–Green, Sullivant Gardens, Augusta, etc. that when you pile a ton of people of the same socioeconomic class into a confined space it always goes south it.Posted 5 months ago # -
surber17
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@Neutzy - from this and other threads I see that you are very passionate about saving historic structures (which is great), but please remember that just because something is historic doesn't mean it should be saved. It reminds me of a line I heard on Pawn Stars "Just because it is old doesn't mean its worth something". In this case, take some pictures.... make a documentary ... etc., but then this needs to go. There is zero chance this neighborhood gets significantly better with these staying the way they are.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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Having spent only a little bit of time navigating the streets and sidewalks of Poindexter village, the concern that jumps out to me at first is the format of the site. The street grid is disconnected from the rest of the neighborhood and there's a lot of strangely placed service alleyways. The sidewalk system is in good shape, but the format of Poindexter Village is largely suburban with large grass "front yards" separating the buildings from the sidewalks and mostly going underutilized. Most historic homes in Near East Side neighborhoods are closer to the street with porches, as you'd find in most other urban Columbus areas.
I think the buildings should possibly be saved if the street and sidewalk grid can be retrofitted around them to compliment the urban landscape that surrounds Poindexter. If the buildings don't fit into a modern use moving forward, then I don't know if they necessarily need to be saved. There are ways of preserving the history of the people and the culture of this area without necessarily keeping every building exactly as it is.
Posted 5 months ago # -
futureman
Grandview Heights
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Moody Nolan lands Vanderbilt stadium, east Columbus housing jobs to headline new projects list
Brian R. Ball
Staff reporter- Business First
http://assets.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/DAI-Moody-Nolan-CMHA-Poindexter-Place-1.jpgThe Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority also expects to break ground on a $16 million housing project Moody Nolan designed. The housing will be built on the grounds of the vacated Poindexter Village on Champion Avenue in the city’s Near East Side.
READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2013/02/moody-nolan-lands-vanderbilt-stadium.htmlPosted 3 months ago # -
NDaEast
Near East Side
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Poindexter Village should be restored and re-purposed from being a public housing community to a mixed income development. Two well-respected, local private developer/investors have separately approached CMHA about the purchase of these properties: the free market believes there is opportunity there, it is CMHA's public housing community business model that is the problem. By reconfiguring the interior spaces through major rehab, these well-capitalized local private sector developers and investors can help immediately revitalize the area, by bringing in new residents with disposable income. Demolishing this site is an environmental and financial shame -- in addition to wiping the heart of Black Columbus off the map, it is a waste of taxpayer dollars. The urban enthusiasts in this group should understand that demolition leaves 27 acres of vacant land in the heart of the city -- land that the Goody Clancy PACT planners say will take at least 10 years to re-populate to the pre-demolition levels. This means low density vacant lots -- no people to buy, so no retail. This area has lost 40,000 people in the last 60 years -- losing 8% of its population through the abandonment/demolition of Poindexter does not make sense for this neighborhood. CMHA was obviously a poor landlord and neighbor, which could not manage its tenants. That shouldn't doom these attractive historic structures set in a rare architectural style of building and greens. Poindexter Village was designed by the same architect who build the Ohio Stadium. Last Wednesday, the Near East Area Commission recently voted overwhelmingly to reject CMHA's request for a letter of support to apply for low income housing tax credits for a new seniors housing facility -- of the 15 commissioners at the meeting, only one voted in support of CMHA's proposed new housing project. Unfortunately, on the same day, City Council issued a letter of support for that low income housing project to be built on 5 acres of the 27 acre site of a demolished Poindexter Village, which makes you wonder if the City is tone deaf to what the neighborhood wants. Low income senior housing does not revitalize neighborhoods -- market rate, mixed income housing makes neighborhoods come alive and be vibrant. Private sector investment makes neighborhoods come alive ... it is stunning to see the city and CMHA fighting so hard to keep private investment out, by replacing it with nonproductive taxpayer funded low income senior housing.
Posted 3 months ago # -
NDaEast
Near East Side
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The Ohio State University Department of African American and African Studies
Community Extension Center presents...Dr. Mary E. Pattillo
Harold Washington Professor
Northwestern University
Department of Sociology“Race, Class and Gentrification in America”
Why do some neighborhoods go from being ignored and starved of resources to being “prime real estate” and the targets of redevelopment? Pattillo will discuss this issue as it relates to African American neighborhoods in cities across the country, but with specific attention to the city of Chicago. Pattillo studied the North Kenwood-Oakland neighborhood, a predominantly black area that was one of the poorest in the city in the 1980s, but now is a place with million dollar homes, a new park, and an upscale coffee shop. Pattillo will tell the complicated story of how federal and local policies, private institutions and investors, and residents all negotiate the contentious processes of improving schools, demolishing and building public housing, and lowering crime.
Monday, February 18, 2013
6-7pm
OSU African American and African Studies Community Extension Center
905 Mt Vernon Ave
Columbus, OH 43203This event is free and open to the public
For More information call 614-292-3922
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http://aaascec.osu.eduPosted 3 months ago # -
labi
Weinland Park
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NDaEast said:
Low income senior housing does not revitalize neighborhoods -- market rate, mixed income housing makes neighborhoods come alive and be vibrant. Private sector investment makes neighborhoods come alive ... it is stunning to see the city and CMHA fighting so hard to keep private investment out, by replacing it with nonproductive taxpayer funded low income senior housing.Here, here - both to your point about revitalization and to the desirability of preserving/adapting the buildings for contemporary use, rather than tearing them down.
Posted 3 months ago # -
NDaEast
Near East Side
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Event posted on Facebook: The Fight for Poindexter Village, Thursday at 7:00, at OSU, place to be determined: http://www.facebook.com/events/341493735970383/
For several years now, community activists and allies have fought to stop the CMHA (Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority) and its partners (Ohio State and the city), from demolishing Poindexter Village and rebuilding the New East Side without sufficient community input and community control.
Now, more than 400 households have been moved out of Poindexter Village and this historically Black neighborhood is set to be transformed, on taxpayer dollars. Similar to the mistakes of past urban renewal efforts, 27 acres of buildings are about to be demolished, with the planners projecting that it will take at least ten years to restore the population to pre-demolition levels. Come listen and participate in this forum about appropriate strategies for reinvestment in a neighborhood.
*Location: Ohio State, room and building TBA"
Posted 2 months ago # -
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Fight Continues Over Future Of Historic Eastside Landmark
Friday March 15, 2013 10:54 AMCOLUMBUS, Ohio - A historically significant but now empty landmark is facing demolition on the eastside of Columbus. Residents are asking Mayor Michael Coleman to step in and save Poindexter Village. Poindexter Village is a vacant, boarded up complex of buildings of 27 acres, with 35 buildings, on Columbus's near-east side. It’s slated for the wrecking ball, but a small, committed group is trying to stop the plan.
READ MORE: http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/03/15/columbus-poindexter-village-fight-to-stop-demolition.htmlPosted 2 months ago # -
NOBOPatriot
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This place is bad, bad news. The best thing is for the 25 + buildings to be razed and land sold to OSU and the 10 left to be redeveloped and a small museum created. Poindexter for the last 40 years has been the breeding ground of more crime, death and destruction. It is also only 75 years old and everyone in the neighborhood - including churches and residents have known it was coming down for 3 years, so this should not be a surprise to anyone in the community.
The bedrooms when I was in em are 6 feet x 6 feet and the buidlings can not economically be redeveloped - let's up our game and get real on options.Study your history brothers and sisters - the people who first lived (our parents generation is dead) and now it is like a plague and a contagion. The acreage should be developed with a more inclusive point of view and people in mind not just African Americans. This area was 75% Jewish, Italian and Irish not just Black folk, so lets recognize that the redevelopment should serve everybody's needs, students and not just a small vocal minority of black brethern or local churches.
Lots of these people now objecting (I know em) are self promoters and obstructionists. It needs to come down for the benefit of everyone in our community. Demolition will also help longtime residents (hold outs) and there quality of life options. I vote to take it down
Posted 2 months ago #
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