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JimL2
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Why don't the protesters change their location to Columbus? If this works, won't this also "hide" the protesters from each other? If the police want to shut them down, won't they just arrest them on the streets or shut down the cell phone network (like they already did) or block Twitter at the DNS level?
I don't understand this.
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JimL2
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Also, here's a tip for protesters... if you want to have a covert network for organizing a massive protest against the government, don't run it on a public website that anyone can look at and which has your phone number on file and has had serious security breaches in the past.
20 years of cypherpunks debating anonymous crypto signatures and theoretical darknets, and people are still using cell phones while trying to "hide."
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somertimeoh
Harrison West
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JimL2 wrote >>
Also, here's a tip for protesters... if you want to have a covert network for organizing a massive protest against the government, don't run it on a public website that anyone can look at and which has your phone number on file and has had serious security breaches in the past.
20 years of cypherpunks debating anonymous crypto signatures and theoretical darknets, and people are still using cell phones while trying to "hide."If I ever need to hide from the government I'm totally calling you. From a payphone.
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joev
Merion Village
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somertimeoh wrote
If I ever need to hide from the government I'm totally calling you. From a payphone.Make sure to wear gloves so you don't leave fingerprints.
I think this has more to do with people outside Iran wanting to feel connected to the protesters.
While I completely agree with their reasons for protesting, I'm not sure what the end goal is. Moussavi isn't all that different from Ahmedinajad policy-wise. Less manic, maybe; doesn't have "crazy eyes." After all, Moussavi was approved to run by the ayatollahs, who, regardless of elections, still control the country in a theocratic manner.
Posted 2 years ago # -
osulew
My house...in the middle of my street
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somertimeoh wrote >>
JimL2 wrote >>
Also, here's a tip for protesters... if you want to have a covert network for organizing a massive protest against the government, don't run it on a public website that anyone can look at and which has your phone number on file and has had serious security breaches in the past.
20 years of cypherpunks debating anonymous crypto signatures and theoretical darknets, and people are still using cell phones while trying to "hide."If I ever need to hide from the government I'm totally calling you. From a payphone.
Are you kidding? Jim gossips like a 14 year old girl. They'd apprehend you before you even hung up.
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JimL2
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Payphones aren't going to help. At a certain point everything flows into the telephone company's hardware, and then you're susceptible to room 641A. And that's in a country that supposedly has laws limiting domestic wiretaps. In a country where the government has unlimited power regarding surveillance, you're in samizdat and clandestine-cell territory.
Anyway, using twitter is dumb but I suspect the Iranian counterintel community is in such disarray at this point that it won't be able to stop it.
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somertimeoh
Harrison West
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Jokes, people!! Honestly, if I'm ever running from the government it's probably BECAUSE of JimL2, so you know, there's that.
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SusanB
Hungarian Village, Columbus' fastest growing Gayborhood!
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The dissidents are using Twitter to communicate with the outside world as that all other means of communication has been shut down and foreign journalists have been forced to leave the country. Iranian journalists have been forbidden to show images of the protests.
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Core_Models
Columbus
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The whole "Change your location" thing makes absolutely no logical sense, but nonetheless, the tweeting from Iraq has been the most (and maybe only) thing worth reading on there in a while.
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Rockmastermike
CORNspiracy HQ
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JimL2 wrote >>
JonMyers wrote >>
They would sift IPs for location not text declarations of location.I don't think twitter publicly shows your IP address... especially not when you post via cell phone, which IIRC is the entire point of Twitter.
it doesn't matter, the state runs and monitors both the ISP and cellular networks. They already know the IP addresses, the account holder currently using the IP, phone ESNs, account holder currently using a given ESN, and can easily log traffic to figure out who sent what message.
The fact that they have only been spot filtering traffic to various networks and have only shut down text messaging services temporarily in some places means they're just not really trying that hard to block the traffic. Perhaps they prefer to simply gather a list of names and then use the (not so)secret police to "investigate" later as the chinese did 20 years ago.
Setting your twitter location will be a symbolic gesture at best.
at last count there were 16 clandestine shortwave stations broadcasting out of iran and an unknown number of shortwave/am/fm pirates. Good luck tracking those guys. :)
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somertimeoh
Harrison West
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I assumed it was more of a support thing as well, like changing your avatar to green. Honestly, Twitter's roll in getting information out lost it's value after the press started talking about Twitter being used to get information out. All the hash tags got cluttered with BS and tons of RT's so it became much less informative and more time consuming to rummage through. Even though it resulted in an oddly emotional experience for me, I'm grateful for the information, pictures, videos, and updates I got to see as they were happening.
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jkostelac
University District
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Rockmastermike wrote >>
JimL2 wrote >>
JonMyers wrote >>
They would sift IPs for location not text declarations of location.I don't think twitter publicly shows your IP address... especially not when you post via cell phone, which IIRC is the entire point of Twitter.
it doesn't matter, the state runs and monitors both the ISP and cellular networks. They already know the IP addresses, the account holder currently using the IP, phone ESNs, account holder currently using a given ESN, and can easily log traffic to figure out who sent what message.
The fact that they have only been spot filtering traffic to various networks and have only shut down text messaging services temporarily in some places means they're just not really trying that hard to block the traffic. Perhaps they prefer to simply gather a list of names and then use the (not so)secret police to "investigate" later as the chinese did 20 years ago.
Setting your twitter location will be a symbolic gesture at best.
at last count there were 16 clandestine shortwave stations broadcasting out of iran and an unknown number of shortwave/am/fm pirates. Good luck tracking those guys. :)I have to disagree, if Iran's inability to Photoshop is any clue I honestly think it can cause enough confusion to help protect people trying to get the word out.
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Rockmastermike
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jkostelac wrote >>
I have to disagree, if Iran's inability to Photoshop is any clue I honestly think it can cause enough confusion to help protect people trying to get the word out.the mear fact the the internet and phone services do function most of the time mean that you can't entirely depend on the incompetence, and speaking as a former network administrator, it would take a LOT of incompetence not to know how to run a network sniffer.
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