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Castro is a quitter.
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Coremodels
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President Bush, traveling in Rwanda on a tour of African nations, greeted the news by saying that the resignation should be the beginning a democratic transition in Cuba that should lead to free elections.
riiiiiiiiiight.
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BetsyB
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CNN Next Week: Fidel Castro has passed away at the age of 71.
They have been saying he actually died awhile ago and that is why nobody has actually seen him for a couple of years now. Plus to announce this in a letter, when even in the worst of health, you could put some makeup on, go out, and make a public announcement seems a little fishy to me.
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BetsyB wrote CNN Next Week: Fidel Castro has passed away at the age of 71.
They have been saying he actually died awhile ago and that is why nobody has actually seen him for a couple of years now. Plus to announce this in a letter, when even in the worst of health, you could put some makeup on, go out, and make a public announcement seems a little fishy to me.
an interview with him aired on cuban television in the fall. don't know if this means much.
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jackal
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caitlin wrote
BetsyB wrote CNN Next Week: Fidel Castro has passed away at the age of 71.
They have been saying he actually died awhile ago and that is why nobody has actually seen him for a couple of years now. Plus to announce this in a letter, when even in the worst of health, you could put some makeup on, go out, and make a public announcement seems a little fishy to me.
an interview with him aired on cuban television in the fall. don't know if this means much.
Were his lips moving?
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caitlin
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jackal wrote
caitlin wrote
BetsyB wrote CNN Next Week: Fidel Castro has passed away at the age of 71.
They have been saying he actually died awhile ago and that is why nobody has actually seen him for a couple of years now. Plus to announce this in a letter, when even in the worst of health, you could put some makeup on, go out, and make a public announcement seems a little fishy to me.
an interview with him aired on cuban television in the fall. don't know if this means much.
Were his lips moving?
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SteinbergForCongress
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Hopefully this means I'll be able to get Cuban Cigars soon...
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gramarye
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For the moment, it looks like his brother has taken power, and they've been phasing him in gradually, anyway; it doesn't look like La Revolucion or whatever they call it is in serious internal jeopardy, despite widespread popular discontent with the military dictatorship.
I doubt the sanctions are going anywhere anytime soon.
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gramarye wrote For the moment, it looks like his brother has taken power, and they've been phasing him in gradually, anyway; it doesn't look like La Revolucion or whatever they call it is in serious internal jeopardy, despite widespread popular discontent with the military dictatorship.
I doubt the sanctions are going anywhere anytime soon.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/07/cuba.videos/
Frankly, it doesn't sound all that oppressive to me, in fact that could be coverage of a round table with politicians right here in the US.
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p.s. Serious question btw, hopefully someone can answer. What is the deal with us and Cuba at this point anyways??? I get that their communist...so is China and we wheel and deal like crazy with them. It seems their human rights record is seemingly better than China and many other countries we deal with. We maintain this massive military base in their country. Are we really still just holding a grudge from the Cold War at this point??? And if so, isn't it time to let it go already???
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Coremodels wrote p.s. Serious question btw, hopefully someone can answer. What is the deal with us and Cuba at this point anyways??? I get that their communist...so is China and we wheel and deal like crazy with them. It seems their human rights record is seemingly better than China and many other countries we deal with. We maintain this massive military base in their country. Are we really still just holding a grudge from the Cold War at this point??? And if so, isn't it time to let it go already???
I think we'd feel a little differently about China if they were 100 miles or so off our coast. We've always felt a certain territoriality with respect to the Western Hemisphere going all the way back to the Monroe Doctrine.
Also, with Cuba, we at least hoped (albeit obviously with minimal success) that we'd be able to impel them to change via the promise of lowering the sanctions. No way we could have even made China bat an eyelash with such a threat/promise.
Bottom line: Even in the age of egalitarianism, size matters; even in the age of the Internet, distance matters.
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Daz
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Coremodels wrote p.s. Serious question btw, hopefully someone can answer. What is the deal with us and Cuba at this point anyways??? I get that their communist...so is China and we wheel and deal like crazy with them. It seems their human rights record is seemingly better than China and many other countries we deal with. We maintain this massive military base in their country. Are we really still just holding a grudge from the Cold War at this point??? And if so, isn't it time to let it go already???
I wrote a 20 page thesis paper about this as part of my Political Economy degree.
If you'd actually like to discuss it, I suggest you meet me for beers. I've probably read some 15,000 pages worth of books on the damned subject and I need the drink to get me loosened up for it. ha.
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Daz wrote
Coremodels wrote p.s. Serious question btw, hopefully someone can answer. What is the deal with us and Cuba at this point anyways??? I get that their communist...so is China and we wheel and deal like crazy with them. It seems their human rights record is seemingly better than China and many other countries we deal with. We maintain this massive military base in their country. Are we really still just holding a grudge from the Cold War at this point??? And if so, isn't it time to let it go already???
I wrote a 20 page thesis paper about this as part of my Political Economy degree.
If you'd actually like to discuss it, I suggest you meet me for beers. I've probably read some 15,000 pages worth of books on the damned subject and I need the drink to get me loosened up for it. ha.
LOL! I'd actually dig that D, because even though I agree with gram, and understand all that, it seems like we're holding such a grudge...and yet Saudi and Pakistan and a whole lot of other countries seem to get a pass. Not to mention, I just don't see Cuba as scary with the fall of the Soviet Union I guess.
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Hmm, interesting D, and thanks very much for that post. In fact, as I've mentioned holding a grudge a couple times in this thread, I guess in a lot of ways it makes even more sense that Castro would hold the grudge and oppose relations with us. I mean hell, imagine if all these years later the faces of the Cuban showdown (and attempts on Castro's life) were still in office in the US, they'd probably still be pissy too! LOL
I guess that's a real benefit of a limited term system I'd never even thought about! :shock:
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