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Ride your bikes in the street, assclowns!
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Can Pedestrians Experience Road Rage?
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the_linotypist
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Corrin Radd
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Thank you!
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the_linotypist
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And I'm sure many of these are the "same rules, same roads, same rights" advocates! Does that mean cars have the right to go on the sidewalks? No one over the age of nine has any business riding a bike on the sidewalk.
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Analogue Kid
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If I have to travel on a fast busy road like Bethel Road, I'll ride on the sidewalk, but you better believe I am careful around pedestrians. Otherwise I ride in the street.
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the_linotypist said:
Walking my daily two miles in Clintonville and around campus, lost track of the number of near-misses I had with bicyclists on the sidewalk.Ride your bikes in the street, assclowns!
EXACTLY! NO KIDDIN! I guess the sidewalks are now siderides. What's funny, is how the motorist are supposed to look out for cyclist and treat the cyclist as equals, but they will break every motorist law known to man/woman. Running red lights, weaving in and out of cars, riding on sidewalks and riding in crosswalks to name a few infractions. They need to stop acting like Jack Casey in 'Quicksilver'. And in no way could you come close to a Cutter, so stop it!!
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Obviously it is not for bicycles, but having lived near campus not too long ago I can say that attempting conversation does work. A lot of them just don't know they are not supposed to ride on the sidewalk. It really wouldn't hurt for the city to put up some signs to this effect, especially near the $30k sidewalk bike racks.
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cc said:
Obviously it is not for bicycles but having lived near campus not too long ago I can say that attempting conversation does work. A lot of them just don't know they are not supposed to ride on the sidewalk.So instead of a cyclist being responsible and knowing the law before going out and erasing their carbon footprint, I have to be their mommy and daddy, take time out of my life, and explain to them that they can't ride on a sidewalk? I don't think so. And the arrogance of people today, they don't take kindly to constructive criticism.
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^Cycling laws regarding riding on sidewalks vary greatly and are generally based on municipality. There are a ton of transplants that just don't know this and also cycling education itself is lax. I also believe it is legal for minors to ride their bikes on sidewalks in Columbus - which sends the wrong message. There are probably a lot of people who are used to it and don't know that there is some magical cutoff...
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^Cycling laws regarding riding on sidewalks vary greatly and are generally based on municipality. There are a ton of transplants that just don't know this and also cycling education itself is lax. I also believe it is legal for minors to ride their bikes on sidewalks in Columbus. There are probably a lot of people who are used to it and don't know that there is some magical cutoff...I understand what youre saying and I dont mean to come off crass, but Im talking about the downtown cyclist as well as the campus students, who should know better.
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0Angle
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There is a campus education program that encourages cyclists to learn the laws and has rewards like discounts/free food at many establishments, especially the Liz Lessner empire (free sauerkraut balls at Barley's). Education is the first step, but on campus, cars, pedestrians and bicycles are equal opportunity offenders, IMO. Everybody needs to learn the hierarchy and laws.
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lifeontwowheels
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0Angle said:
There is a campus education program that encourages cyclists to learn the laws and has rewards like discounts/free food at many establishments, especially the Liz Lessner empire (free sauerkraut balls at Barley's). Education is the first step, but on campus, cars, pedestrians and bicycles are equal opportunity offenders, IMO. Everybody needs to learn the hierarchy and laws.How We Roll, a program run by Yay Bikes! in partnership with Bike OSU and the Ohio State University which was one of the cited reasons for OSU being designated a bike friendly university by the League of American Bicyclists.
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racheltb
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When cyclists don't know the rules they endanger everyone, especially those of us who might be driving cars and trying not to hit anyone. Rules exist so that we can predict each other's moves.
There's a man who makes a habit of riding his bike down the middle of high street in the suicide lane. I've seen him many times and he is well outfitted with a helmet and light. Why he thinks that cycling in a shared turn lane is safe, I'll never know.
The craziest run-in I had recently was with a cyclist who apparently experienced road rage towards me when I hollered from my car window for him to 'ride safe!' after he ran a red light....no helmet...at night...with no lights...in the rain. We almost ran him over because he was totally not visible, so I shouted out the window. His response was to zig zag across the lanes taunting us to hit him. It was really scary because he was totally out of control.
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lifeontwowheels
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I actually find this thread hilarious. Any time I bring up the need to educate cyclists on a wider scale, to include basic road rules, using lights and staying off the sidewalk I usually get mocked and labeled something like an elitist, hardcore cycling prick-or that's at least the sentiment.
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lifeontwowheels said:
I actually find this thread hilarious. Any time I bring up the need to educate cyclists on a wider scale, to include basic road rules, using lights and staying off the sidewalk I usually get mocked and labeled something like an elitist, hardcore cycling prick-or that's at least the sentiment.Definitely street appropriate education and the use of helmets and lights seems like a no brainer. Hopefully this will come with time.
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lifeontwowheels
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leftovers said:
Definitely street appropriate education and the use of helmets and lights seems like a no brainer. Hopefully this will come with time.It's already being done, at least in the small scale if you reference my link a few posts up. With Columbus Foundation's Big Give coming up it's a good time for people interested in programs like this to help them continue.
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lifeontwowheels
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leftovers said:
The "Roll" thing seems geared only to enrolled OSU students...Q: Do you think that this campaign at OSU is significant to the larger Columbus community as a whole?
A: The How We Roll campaign is pretty innovative as far as bicycle campaigns go — you don’t often see such intensive focus on outreach and education specific to cyclists, and there’s nothing we know of happening on this scale, using this methodology, at any other university in the country. In fact, we’re having to develop completely new materials because there’s nothing out there for student cyclists that’s all that compelling! And of course no one is using bicycle tours as a method of communicating urban riding skills. So we could end up with some really fascinating results and a model that can replicated at other universities or, indeed, in other neighborhoods. Which is exciting, because neighborhood-based transportation behavior change initiatives have achieved great success in other cities but we haven’t yet tried them here — and they’re so much cheaper and quicker than infrastructure or policy change!
The educational bike tour concept itself is pretty ground-breaking in Columbus since, in addition to teaching people how to ride, we’re taking customers directly to a small business, showing them how easy it is to get there by bike. So it’s a safety and mode shift effort, but also an economic development tool that can help demonstrate the case for making an investment in bicycling. There’s already been some interest in expanding these tours beyond the OSU community, so we’re excited to see where that goes. It’d be super fun to develop bicycle tours of local businesses in all Columbus neighborhoods!
ODOT and ODPS are especially eager to see the effects of this campaign on crash reduction, and plan to share any successes broadly within Ohio and nationwide. Certainly if it works they will encourage other Ohio universities to implement a similar campaign on their campuses. Yay Bikes! will be creating a final report and Best Practices Guide from this experience to share with universities, communities, neighborhood organizations and others throughout the U.S.
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