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YouTubeSo they had an article today on the situation with the Jackets and their budget woes. I went into the comments out of curiosity, just to see what people were saying. I couldn't believe it. I can't believe how narrowminded some people in this city are. Some have no argument at all. Some just don't make sense. I don't want to babble on about it, just check it out. My comments are by Jason. Agree or disagree with me, it's a free country. Just try not to be as ignorant as some of these people.
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Hael
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jpizzow wrote >>
So they had an article today on the situation with the Jackets and their budget woes. I went into the comments out of curiosity, just to see what people were saying. I couldn't believe it. I can't believe how narrowminded some people in this city are. Some have no argument at all. Some just don't make sense. I don't want to babble on about it, just check it out. My comments are by Jason. Agree or disagree with me, it's a free country. Just try not to be as ignorant as some of these people.ever read the comments on CNN's political blogs? It will make you wonder if Idiocracy is coming true.
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Mister Shifter
Lewis Center
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I'll be the ignorant one and say hockey is dead as a doornail.
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jpizzow
580 N. Park St.
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the point isn't whether or not you like hockey or not. if this city wants to be major league, then its going to need more than the Crew. Everybody keeps saying "i don't like hockey, so who cares. let them leave". that's not the point and it's driving me nuts. i'm not saying we should be footing the bill for the bailout either. i'm just saying that this city is better off with another major sporting option for overall economic and cultural purposes.
I'm not going to sit here say that if the Columbus Museum of Art has budget problems then let it fail, close it up because I never go there. That's an ignorant statement. It's a huge part of the culture here in Columbus as are the Blue Jackets.
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Mister Shifter
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honavery wrote >>
I'm not a huge hockey fan....but I believe that the recently finished Stanley Cup finals had it's highest ratings since the 1970's. I think it's popularity is back on the upswing.Take those with a grain of salt. Neilson, the comapny who handles the NHL TV ratings poll approximately 600 households per city (a very small number). They're known for being highly innacurate.
Consider for example the Atlanta market where the sample size is about 500 households. The current rating for Atlanta is .23% which means that on a typical night just 1.15 out of the 500 Nielson housholds are watching the Thrashers. Now if one or two additional households suddenly became fans of the Thrashers, the club's Nielson ratings would "explode" and show 100-200% growth. The Nielson numbers are very sensitive to tiny shifts in the viewing habits because the samples for any one metro (outside of NYC, CHI and LA) are rather small. So exercise some caution when reading a chart showing the % increase or decrease.
If Hockey's ratings were doing well, ESPN wouldn't have canned them from the network.
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honavery
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Mister Shifter wrote >>
honavery wrote >>
I'm not a huge hockey fan....but I believe that the recently finished Stanley Cup finals had it's highest ratings since the 1970's. I think it's popularity is back on the upswing.Take those with a grain of salt. Neilson, the comapny who handles the NHL TV ratings poll approximately 600 households per city (a very small number). They're known for being highly innacurate.
Consider for example the Atlanta market where the sample size is about 500 households. The current rating for Atlanta is .23% which means that on a typical night just 1.15 out of the 500 Nielson housholds are watching the Thrashers. Now if one or two additional households suddenly became fans of the Thrashers, the club's Nielson ratings would "explode" and show 100-200% growth. The Nielson numbers are very sensitive to tiny shifts in the viewing habits because the samples for any one metro (outside of NYC, CHI and LA) are rather small. So exercise some caution when reading a chart showing the % increase or decrease.
If Hockey's ratings were doing well, ESPN wouldn't have canned them from the network.I'm not an expert on Neilsen ratings, but it's the best measurement we have. And ESPN dropped hockey awhile ago. I'm sure they will reconsider at some point in the future (most likely based on Neilsen ratings)
Anyways, jpizzow is right. I'm not a big hockey fan, but I would hate to see the Jackets leave.
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brothermarcus
West Siiiide
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jpizzow wrote >>
I'm not going to sit here say that if the Columbus Museum of Art has budget problems then let it fail, close it up because I never go there. That's an ignorant statement. It's a huge part of the culture here in Columbus as are the Blue Jackets.hrm...
CMA
Headquarters: Columbus, Ohio Area
Industry: Museums and Institutions
Type: Non-Profit
Company Size: 110 employees
2007 Revenue: $7,820,000
Founded: 1878CBJ
Headquarters: Columbus, Ohio Area
Industry: Sports
Type: Privately Held
Status: Operating
Company: Size 51-200 employees
Founded: 2000
Team Value: $157 milapples, meet oranges. everything here is from linkedin except the team value which is from Forbes (2008). Non-profits generally RELY on charity, giving charity to a privately held organization looking to correct their inefficiencies - that's corporate socialism, and I'm against it. I love the CBJ, and I spend my money on tickets and licensed items... I will not bail them out with my vote though, I will not force another tax payer to subsidize a sports team with my vote.
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Core_Models
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Is there any subsidy to the Crew? The team or the stadium? I really don't know, am simply curious. If the Crew, however, is keeping afloat financially on their own, it seems the Blue Jackets surely should be expected to.
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ehill27
Short North
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Let's not forget that the Jackets bring significant money to the city. Furthermore, having a major league team is also an advertising mechanism for cities. Some cities and states actually pay to advertise themselves in other markets. We're getting this for free (at least for now) via the Jackets and 2008 MLS Cup Champion Crew.
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negativetouch
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Core_Models wrote >>
Is there any subsidy to the Crew? The team or the stadium? I really don't know, am simply curious. If the Crew, however, is keeping afloat financially on their own, it seems the Blue Jackets surely should be expected to.Nope. Lamar Hunt wrote a check to pay for Crew Stadium himself.
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adrock
Grandview Heights
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let them go. good riddance. if they aren't making money now, they're never, ever going to. then i don't have to hear stupid hockey fans talk about how columbus is a "hockey town" now. no it's not, shut up.
"Your lack of support for the team is directly related to your lack of support for this great city and it's a shame we have people living here with that kind of mindset. "
ahahhahahha. really? really? you're going to do that? you're going to get all george w. bush on everyone? you're either with us or you're with the terrorists? if you don't like the blue jackets then you hate this city? people can support this city but not want to support full-contact ice skating with sticks. unprofitable mullet-filled ice-skating with sticks at that.
nothing beats this rocket guy posting at the dispatch though. repping cincinnati and saying columbus will always be a mediocre city...ummmm....why did people move out of cincinnati in droves of thousands for the entire 2nd half of the 20th century? because it's awesome?
and yeah, crew stadium was paid for in full by lamar hunt, and the crew is still owned by his son. those big glidden logos dont seem to affect the soccer players much. the NHL should let hockey teams do the same before they all fold.
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JimL2
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Mister Shifter wrote >>
Take those with a grain of salt. Neilson, the comapny who handles the NHL TV ratings poll approximately 600 households per city (a very small number).I'm no Stats Master, but sample size is less important than you might believe.
The fact that we have a major-league hockey team is actually a feather in the city's cap. You might not think it, but it does improve the city's image, especially in other hockey towns. (Boston, for instance, where a ton of people follow the Bruins but nobody gives a shit about the New England Revolution.)
As for adrock's insistence that "if they aren't making money now, they're never, ever going to," I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. This was the first season that the Blue Jackets really hit the national scene. That means that next season they'll have a better chance of making money. Interest in a team (and therefore revenue for a team) is not instantaneous. You have to build it through successful seasons (Patriots), a long and storied history in the community (Bengals), or by being the worst-ever team in the history of the sport (Lions).
The bottom line is that sometimes you have to pay for your city's prestige. Sports can be an incredibly stupid example of this, with whiny owners threatening to move out of the city if they don't get a better stadium. But in the long run, I think it's worth it.
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dru
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i don't like the current proposal to fund the arena ($6.35 tax on a bottle of wine?) and really don't like the attempt to do this without a vote. although at least it's not like Indy who is trying to save their arenas with a statewide tax (so it's not just hockey, Super Bowl winning football and basketball are drains in Indy).
but, for those who immediately say good riddance, what do you think would become of the "Arena District?" sure the Clippers bring in the summer crowd now, but fall and winter, it would be dead. some of the venues failed during the strike year, and others suffered greatly and couldn't have held out without the prospect of hockey returning. So what would we get, I'd say a second Brewery District with a darkened arena on all but 12 nights of Yanni and Monster Trucks. Excellent! I'm more concerned of saving a section of downtown from failing, I just wish they'd come up with a more palatable idea and put it to a vote.
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chaptal
West Side
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dru wrote >>
i don't like the current proposal to fund the arena ($6.35 tax on a bottle of wine?) and really don't like the attempt to do this without a vote. but, for those who say good riddance, what do you think would become of the "Arena District?" sure the Clippers bring in the summer crowd now, but fall and winter, it would be dead. some of the venues failed during the strike year, and others suffered greatly and couldn't have held out without the prospect of hockey returning. So what would we get, I'd say a second brewery district with a darkened arena on all but 12 nights of Yanni and Monster Trucks. Excellent.Just like Kansas City, who have this brand new public funded arena and keep waiting, and waiting for an NHL team. Go Columbus!
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HeySquare
German Village
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Mister Shifter wrote >>
honavery wrote >>
I'm not a huge hockey fan....but I believe that the recently finished Stanley Cup finals had it's highest ratings since the 1970's. I think it's popularity is back on the upswing.Take those with a grain of salt. Neilson, the comapny who handles the NHL TV ratings poll approximately 600 households per city (a very small number). They're known for being highly innacurate.
Consider for example the Atlanta market where the sample size is about 500 households. The current rating for Atlanta is .23% which means that on a typical night just 1.15 out of the 500 Nielson housholds are watching the Thrashers. Now if one or two additional households suddenly became fans of the Thrashers, the club's Nielson ratings would "explode" and show 100-200% growth. The Nielson numbers are very sensitive to tiny shifts in the viewing habits because the samples for any one metro (outside of NYC, CHI and LA) are rather small. So exercise some caution when reading a chart showing the % increase or decrease.
If Hockey's ratings were doing well, ESPN wouldn't have canned them from the network.They weren't canned from ESPN. The NHL got a way better deal from Versus, and so signed with the rival network. At the time, Versus was poised to compete for MLB and NFL contracts as well.
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