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TomOver
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and dead Afghan civilians killed by US drones on my mind, and maybe also some people killed in food riots that can be linked to ethanol production which takes food from the mouths of the world's poor to put fuel in our gas tanks, for mostly single-occupancy trips to the mailbox and back...

To accept some of the discomforts of the rain and the cold and other possible inconveniences of biking in the fall and winter, I've told myself to think of it as at least a slight reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers and their families, and Afghan and Iraqi civilians in wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Posted 1 year ago #
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seriously, you must have a blog somewhere where you can dump this. No?
might i suggest myhighhorsehastwowheels.blogspot.com

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Porky
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TomOver wrote >>
wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Tom I know you catch a lot of shit on here, but I want to thank you for being part of the solution!

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TomOver
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groundrules wrote >>
seriously, you must have a blog somewhere where you can dump this. No?
might i suggest myhighhorsehastwowheels.blogspot.com

What we do in our daily lives has consequences not only for people in our midst, but for people all over the world.

Delving into that connection and doing our best to improve how our actions affect others is the basis of morality.

Let's face reality. If you're comfortable with the connection between our way of life and the suffering of others, then that's between you and your conscience, or you and your god, if you have one (which I don't) But let's not lie to ourselves.

Instead of a snide comment toward me, why not simply say " yeah, I know about this, but I don't care. "

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Porky wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Tom I know you catch a lot of shit on here, but I want to thank you for being part of the solution!

Your clown sucks.

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TomOver wrote >>
and dead Afghan civilians killed by US drones on my mind, and maybe also some people killed in food riots that can be linked to ethanol production which takes food from the mouths of the world's poor to put fuel in our gas tanks, for mostly single-occupancy trips to the mailbox and back...

What if you just put your mailbox closer to your door?

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Cookie wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
and dead Afghan civilians killed by US drones on my mind, and maybe also some people killed in food riots that can be linked to ethanol production which takes food from the mouths of the world's poor to put fuel in our gas tanks, for mostly single-occupancy trips to the mailbox and back...

What if you just put your mailbox closer to your door?

^ Sometimes people are so dense. You don't waste any fossil fuels if you ride your electric Jazzy to the mailbox.

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Porky wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Tom I know you catch a lot of shit on here, but I want to thank you for being part of the solution!

Assuming you're not being sarcastic-- (I myself use exclamation marks to indicate that I am joking--) I appreciate the comment, but I am not so much looking for thanks. I am looking for honest feedback.

I hope I am part of the solution, but in order to be honest with you I got to tell you that for me it's a daily struggle to sift out my genuine concern for others amidst my own egotism.

Regarding catching a lot of shit on this forum, much of it actually ends up being useful feedback from people.

I'm not sure why I have these sorts of sentiments and actions while others don't. One guess would be that part of the reason I like trying to think outside of the conventional wisdom is that I am someone who hasn't amounted to much if I measure myself by mainstream, materialistic, hetero-normative standards.

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TomOver wrote >>

groundrules wrote >>
seriously, you must have a blog somewhere where you can dump this. No?
might i suggest myhighhorsehastwowheels.blogspot.com

What we do in our daily lives has consequences not only for people in our midst, but for people all over the world.

my snide comment is meant to address a seeming need to broadcast your efforts at doing your little part like you need a pat on the back for it.

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Mercurius
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TomOver wrote >>
and dead Afghan civilians killed by US drones on my mind, and maybe also some people killed in food riots that can be linked to ethanol production which takes food from the mouths of the world's poor to put fuel in our gas tanks, for mostly single-occupancy trips to the mailbox and back...
To accept some of the discomforts of the rain and the cold and other possible inconveniences of biking in the fall and winter, I've told myself to think of it as at least a slight reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers and their families, and Afghan and Iraqi civilians in wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

If you believe food scarcity and lack of alternative fuels are the most serious problems - do you favor industrial agriculture and genetic engineering to help mitigate them?

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Posted 1 year ago #
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TomOver wrote >>
I've told myself to think of it as at least a slight reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers

Maybe you could bike in neighborhoods where you get shot at. That would totally increase the reminder factor.

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Ricolla
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I'm not going to try to assume where you are coming from on this subject but I will offer the way I see things.

Honestly- I can't wax all philosophical about how everything I do leaves a print on something or someone either puposely or indirectly. From my own point of view I have so many things going on in my personal realm (which no one is interested in hearing about) that I can't afford to lose the few precious sanity points I have on thoughts as you posted above.

Not to knock what you initially wrote- it is thought provoking and maybe you'll get some good convo out of it.

I don't think it's egotism that gets in the way of these deep thoughts- I think it's the fact that alot of us already endure some sort personal suffering and really can't afford to suffer for the world as well. I think it's great that there are people out there who devote their lives to the military, global ecology, veganism, disease research, rocket science, feeding the hungry, dog grooming, etc. Who give up everything to persue these passions- but it takes a special kind of person to do these things- and I am not one of them.

I'm not heartless, it's not that I don't care, I do care. Plain and simple I'd be wearing a jacket the buckles up the back, rocking back and forth in a padded room if I tried to seriously contemplate all that is worng with the world and how my personal sacrifice could make it better. My view on this is strictly self preservation. But kudos to you in any case.

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I clicked on this band thinking it was a concert with the bands: "Biking in the Rain" and "Dead US Soldiers & Dead Iraqis."

Man was I disappointed.

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TomOver wrote >>
light reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers and their families, and Afghan and Iraqi civilians in wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Afghanistan has oil?

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joev
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^No, but they have lapis lazuli, which we totally need to make Bush's and Obama's funerary masks.

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Mercurius wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
and dead Afghan civilians killed by US drones on my mind, and maybe also some people killed in food riots that can be linked to ethanol production which takes food from the mouths of the world's poor to put fuel in our gas tanks, for mostly single-occupancy trips to the mailbox and back...
To accept some of the discomforts of the rain and the cold and other possible inconveniences of biking in the fall and winter, I've told myself to think of it as at least a slight reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers and their families, and Afghan and Iraqi civilians in wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

If you believe food scarcity and lack of alternative fuels are the most serious problems - do you favor industrial agriculture and genetic engineering to help mitigate them?

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Industrial agriculture depends heavily on petroleum, a finite resource. Further, corporate, industrial agriculture involves people in 'developing' countries being dependent on the agricultural products of large corporations such as Monsanto. Self-sufficiency of subsistence farmers in 'developing' nations is regarded as bad for the profits of big ag.

Small to medium sized organic farming is perhaps a better way to achieve food security them fostering dependence on an agricultural system that's not sustainable anyway.

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Porky
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Snarf wrote >>

Porky wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Tom I know you catch a lot of shit on here, but I want to thank you for being part of the solution!

Your clown sucks.

Oh yeah, well I bet "Creeps" would whoop old Sadface's ass :P

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howatzer wrote >>

TomOver wrote >>
light reminder of the hardship experienced by US soldiers and their families, and Afghan and Iraqi civilians in wars based not on fighting terrorism or promoting democracy but on access to oil.

Afghanistan has oil?

Oil and natural gas pipelines

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michaelcoyote wrote >>

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I've been called "weirdo" since about 2nd grade. My eccentricity is my gift to the world or, maybe God's or the universe's gift to the world, if you believe in a sentient being behind the workings of the cosmos.

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