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Walker wrote >>
Do we need to start a different thread for big projects that were a success, or is this thread only for the flops?
Flops only.
Consider it a symptom of collective seasonal affective disorder ;)
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joev
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misskitty wrote >>
I see a city that is doing some odd things sometimes. What I have noticed is things like
- Lack of maintaining Parks
- Closing nine schools
- City writing off bad old loans
- Attempting to raise meter rates.
- All this seems pretty bad it’s a fail in my books.
But it’s all good who needs schools, clean parks when you can look on to the future of a new hotel with more conventions. oooo it's shiny and newThat stuff looks mostly bad on the surface, but it makes sense.
Park rec centers will be reopened by fall.
The nine schools are closing because the district has more buildings than it needs, and enrollment has been shrinking for a long time.
Writing off the bad loans was something that should have been done long ago, and just finally happened. Nothing controversial there.
The meter rates/times may need to be raised, but the method of doing so was really flawed. The city stepped back and is studying the issue now.
Seems like a lot of worry over nothing of true importance.
Meanwhile, a new convention hotel will help Columbus be more competitive for large conventions, bringing in millions of extra tax dollars to the city that people who don't live here will have to pay, instead of you and me.Posted 2 years ago # -
Cookie
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misskitty
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joev wrote >>
misskitty wrote >>
I see a city that is doing some odd things sometimes. What I have noticed is things like
- Lack of maintaining Parks
- Closing nine schools
- City writing off bad old loans
- Attempting to raise meter rates.
- All this seems pretty bad it’s a fail in my books.
But it’s all good who needs schools, clean parks when you can look on to the future of a new hotel with more conventions. oooo it's shiny and newThat stuff looks mostly bad on the surface, but it makes sense.
Park rec centers will be reopened by fall.
The nine schools are closing because the district has more buildings than it needs, and enrollment has been shrinking for a long time.
Writing off the bad loans was something that should have been done long ago, and just finally happened. Nothing controversial there.
The meter rates/times may need to be raised, but the method of doing so was really flawed. The city stepped back and is studying the issue now.
Seems like a lot of worry over nothing of true importance.
Meanwhile, a new convention hotel will help Columbus be more competitive for large conventions, bringing in millions of extra tax dollars to the city that people who don't live here will have to pay, instead of you and me.Very true and well taken
I guess it can be sad looking on the surface sometimes.
Don't mind me it's still early in the day.Posted 2 years ago # -
lazyfish
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other flops.... Waterfire could we please stop borrowing "cool" ideas from other places
Nationwide Arena and the Blue Jackets
Campus Gateway, if you believe today's Dispatch article
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/12/18/campus_partners_audit.ART_ART_12-18-09_B3_3LG1L81.html?sid=101I'm not a fan of gambling, and voted against issue 2 but since it won and I do believe in majority rule, I will withhold judgement about the future demise of the project. The folks and politicians who are still campaigning against it are wasting their/our time.
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groundrules
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Cookie wrote >>
Core_Models wrote >>
BTW, did anyone ever go to Son of Heaven? I was young enough it didn't hold much interest for me personally, but it looks like it actually did really well in other cities and looking back seems kind of cool.I did. It was a pretty impressive exhibit.
yeah, it was sweet. and possibly analogous to AmeriFlora, I believe S.O.H was responsible for the first post-academic use/reuse/rehab of Central High building, which is a major plus for downtown.
Not to mention it spawned the amazingly unacceptable fred riechart "SON OF CO-RUMBUS!!" asian-themed car commercials.
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byJody
Rural NW Columbus
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My statement was that Son of Heaven and Ameriflora were events that lost money. They did however both have redeeming qualities and positive ripple effects.
I had a great experience as a volunteer at Ameriflora. They had national acts in the outdoor ampitheater...I remember seeing the Neville Brothers and Paula Poundstone.
Regarding Central High School, some of the improvement work was done for the filming of 'Teachers' in 1983ish, but Son of Heaven spurred additional rehab.
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Nitsud Regnifloh
Valerio Heights
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ice skating rink on the Statehouse lawn was AWESOME. i dont know what you're talking about...
now, the ferris wheel, in winter...not such a good idea.
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Core_Models
Columbus
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Yeah, the various rinks were cool. The Centrum was all kinds of awesome as I recall. As far as renovating the high school for the movie, Teachers, I was an extra in that movie and if they did renovations, its a mystery to me. They didn't even bother to kill the rats.
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byJody
Rural NW Columbus
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@core_models
The statement was 'I believe S.O.H was responsible for the first post-academic use/reuse/rehab of Central High building, which is a major plus for downtown.'
Filming there was a post-academic use of the Central High Building prior to Son of Heaven. But I yield to your expertise as an Extra. (I think it is cool, even if I sound like I am mocking you. Several of my classmates were extras too.)
(in re-reading the thread, I realize I am contradicting myself. a) I am arguing with you. b) My statement does say the improvements were made for the movie.)
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alexs
Limestone bluffs of the Scioto
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How about CompuServe? To understand this one you need to distinguish between the internet and the WWW.
Before the web, there was the internet, which was text-based and not hypertext-based. CompuServe had local dial-up numbers nationwide, and people could make a local call with their modems, and access CompuServe's content - for example, mail, and supposedly they invented chat over there on Henderson Road. CompuServe provided both the access and the content. (Similar were AOL and Prodigy and a few others.) This was a character-based interface, like running a computer in DOS mode.
Good lord, imagine surfing on a 14.4 modem...
Then came the web, and they were tearing their hair out at CompuServe (lots of golden parachutes, btw) because now there were "internet service providers" who could connect users to content outside of CompuServe. So they created schemes like "bring your own access" where you could get some other ISP but still pay to access CompuServe's proprietary content.
They also launched a project named WOW. I have several of these mouse pads:
That timestamp was the intended launch date, but the project was killed very shortly beforehand. Morale tanked.
But look at that content, it was an attempt to resemble surfing the web, with graphical content, but all within CompuServe. There's mail, news, and favorites, but there's still an old-school menu like from the pre-web years.
They languished for a long time before AOL bought them. I was in the audience when Steve Case put on a CompuServe t-shirt and told us our jobs were safe. Guess what happened.
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