geoyui
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I'm not sure if this is the best option/middle ground between buses and light/commuter rail, but I like how a system like this could fit within the dynamics of Columbus. Financially seems more feasible, less hassle with land, and the system can adapt based on ridership levels.
A Mass-Transit Proposal To Connect A City Using Aerial Gondolas
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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geoyui said:
I'm not sure if this is the best option/middle ground between buses and light/commuter rail, but I like how a system like this could fit within the dynamics of Columbus. Financially seems more feasible, less hassle with land, and the system can adapt based on ridership levels.A Mass-Transit Proposal To Connect A City Using Aerial Gondolas
An interesting proposal, but is it feasible? Usually non-entertainment gondolas are reserved for getting people through terrain that is tougher to navigate... waterways, mountains, etc. Columbus doesn't really have a problem with those things.
bayrea
Dublin, Oh
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Walker said:
An interesting proposal, but is it feasible? Usually non-entertainment gondolas are reserved for getting people through terrain that is tougher to navigate... waterways, mountains, etc. Columbus doesn't really have a problem with those things.
Plus they are very prone to Green Goblin attacks..
geoyui
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Walker said:
An interesting proposal, but is it feasible? Usually non-entertainment gondolas are reserved for getting people through terrain that is tougher to navigate... waterways, mountains, etc. Columbus doesn't really have a problem with those things.
I think that's what is appealing, it is certainly unorthodox when referencing it as "mass transit". The article answers some of the challenges that opponents to any sort of train solution pose here in Cbus: ridership, costs and land. That in itself makes it more feasible IMO.
Here's an article by wired that briefly mentions cost:
It just so happened that McDaniel and Ficklin’s home city had just debated whether to install a little more than five miles of light rail at a cost of $550 million – around $100 million per mile.“Putting in an aerial ropeway, we’re talking a fraction of that,” McDaniel said. “A gondola can be put in for $12 million a mile. It’s a fraction of the cost because you’re not looking at eminent domain or rights of way, and you’re not disrupting local businesses or cutting out vehicular traffic.”
And here is a listing of CPT (Cable propelled transit) projects being developed worldwide.
bjones7
Worthington Ohio
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If you can connect the North part of town (up to Polaris) to Downtown, with a commute faster than 71 & 315 during rush hour, any transit option would spark the majority of share holders interest. Cough..commuter rail..Cough..
If we were thinking of using a gondola for downtown, then something like the PEOPLE MOVER in Detroit would work better. Or any other type of tram. Even a COTA bus that traveled within downtown would work better.
Great concept, but would it work for Columbus, I personally would say no.
geoyui
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bjones7 said:
If you can connect the North part of town (up to Polaris) to Downtown, with a commute faster than 71 & 315 during rush hour, any transit option would spark the majority of share holders interest. Cough..commuter rail..Cough..If we were thinking of using a gondola for downtown, then something like the PEOPLE MOVER in Detroit would work better. Or any other type of tram. Even a COTA bus that traveled within downtown would work better.
Great concept, but would it work for Columbus, I personally would say no.
I think the problem that a tram or the People Mover in detroit would raise are the same issues that commuter train would, land and costs. Columbus would still need to purchase land and decide if a $100 million per mile of track is worth it. Gondolas, no matter how odd, seem to provide a decent/middle ground solution for the issues that plague train discussions.
I will say that this type of system (I assume) may be best suited for within the 270 belt. I can imagine lines that run between Clintonville, Bexley, Merion Village, Westgate and downtown.
Rockmastermike
The Bacon District
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Pneumatic tubes
Anything less is half as cool
Navin R Johnson
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I'm sorry, I thought the title said Areola Gondolas as mass transit option.
Carry on....
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Loved the dance scenes in Pina in the Wuppertal aerial dingy
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bjones7
Worthington Ohio
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geoyui said:
I think the problem that a tram or the People Mover in detroit would raise are the same issues that commuter train would, land and costs. Columbus would still need to purchase land and decide if a $100 million per mile of track is worth it. Gondolas, no matter how odd, seem to provide a decent/middle ground solution for the issues that plague train discussions.I will say that this type of system (I assume) may be best suited for within the 270 belt. I can imagine lines that run between Clintonville, Bexley, Merion Village, Westgate and downtown.
At what 20mph? Count me out
geoyui
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bjones7 said:
At what 20mph? Count me out
I agree, I think that's why it would be limited to more the central core. Based on what I've read, one of the benefits when it comes to time is that there will be a gondola that comes around at a much more frequent rate at a stop then a train would. A gondola could come every 30 secs/minute, but a train maybe every 5+ minutes? And gondolas could be added/removed based on traffic patterns. It's not a solution for everyone and everywhere, but I think it could fit Columbus' needs.
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