misskitty
Columbus
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lisathewaitress wrote >>
Bear wrote >>
misskitty wrote >>
Actually, I can't stand the word Irregardless.You shouldn't. There's no such word.
Unfortunately, irregardless actually is a word. Literally. (sorry, couldn't help myself)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
We learn something every day I was under the impression it was not a word. I guess it is thanks for the enlightenment!
I still can’t stand that word though lol
Manatee
The eternal present
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Isn't "irregardless" a double negative? I thought those were always a no-no. Pun intended I guess.
The best thing about "irregardless" is that people use it because they think it's a big fancy word that makes them sound as smart as Alex Trebek, but really it just makes them look like a giant boob.
Nitsud Regnifloh
Valerio Heights
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I literally just actually died, but not really...
Twixlen
Westgate, Columbus
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Tenzo wrote >>
Where I work we have to watch a whole bunch of safety videos each year.
One of them was called 'workplace aggression'.
The presenter in the video used the words 'irregardless', 'gots', 'gotta' 'orientated', along with very poor grammar. By the end of the video I wanted to reach through the screen and smack him.
I told my boss the video worked, by the time it was over I wanted to hit someone.
He wasn't amused.
Videos of that nature negatively impact me in much the same way.
For instance, a video about pandemics where the word pandemic is pronounced panDAMNic every single time - it grates after a while.
Also, I miss adverbs.
jeff_r
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Whether something is or isn't a word is rarely black and white. In dictionaries, the debate is usually played out in the battle between descriptive dictionaries and prescriptive dictionaries.
A dictionary with a descriptive editorial policy is typically sympathetic to describing the changes in language. They're quicker to add new slang, nontraditional words, and informal usages. Think of this approach as one that documents the dynamic shifts in language and usage.
A dictionary with a more prescriptive editorial policy favors correct usage. Its intent is to prescribe how language should be used. Dictionaries that are prescriptive are less likely to acknowledge nontraditional words. They're also more likely to label and editorialize on usage.
Obviously there are many different dictionary publishers, and not one of them can rightly claim to be "the dictionary of record". As a consequence, words can show up in some dictionaries but not in others. Sometimes those words are labeled "nonstandard", "not accepted as standard", "colloquial", etc.
Often whether something is or isn't a word depends simply on your own ideas about language (are you more prescriptive or descriptive?) and what you're doing with it. If you're a copy editor, there's a good chance irregardless isn't a word. I expect you'd cross it out every single time you saw it.
If you're talking informally with friends and family then irregardless might find it's way into the conversation. Most people wouldn't bother with a correction, and I expect all would know what you mean. Given that's what language is supposed to do, then irregardless certainly functions as a word, if not necessarily an agreed upon one.
jennyw
Clintonville
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To echo what jeff_r said, I'd say that irregardless is a word--"ain't" is also in the dictionary--but not one you'd use in any type of formal writing or speaking.
A superintendent in a district I used to cover was guilty of saying "irregardless" all the time during school board meetings. And as soon as he'd say it, the board members would unconsciously start including it in their talking points, too. Yikes.
Personally, I don't have a problem with bending and stretching and playing with language, but I HATE "gift" as a verb, as in "we gifted her XX as a going-away present." It is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Tenzo
Chicago Lakeshore
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I think we are confusing the diference between a word being in the dictionary and being proper English.
irregardles, orientated and gots may be in the dictionary. Doesn't mean they are proper English
o·ri·en·tate   /ˈÉâ€riÉ™nËŒteɪt, -É›n-, ˈoÊŠr-/ Show Spelled[awr-ee-uhn-teyt, -en-, ohr-] Show IPA
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object),-tat·ed, -tat·ing.
to orient.Origin:
1840–50; < F orient(er) to orient + -ate1â€â€Related forms
re·o·ri·en·tate, verb (used with object),-tat·ed, -tat·ing.
lifeliberty
Here
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http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors
I might have gotten this from an earlier thread, I don't remember
Bear
The woods
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Talcott wrote >>
Bear wrote >>
Meaning, dictionaries pander to popular delusions.As they should, given that language itself is a popular delusion.
:-) It's a collective construct, certainly; but so is music, and we don't go around changing the scales just because lots of people think they heard a B when they really heard an A.
L.I. to Buckeye
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jmak wrote >>
It's not nearly as annoying as the overusage and mis-usage of the word "literally."
But I did literally just tell someone the other day that people said 'actually' too much.
Completely agree. I also hate the misuse of "ironically" or "ironic" a la Alanis Morissette.
This is the definition of irony that I was taught:
Irony
Yes. I'm an English/grammar nerd.
catnfiddle
Giant Corncob District
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I am having a grammargasm reading this thread. Literarily.
catnfiddle
Giant Corncob District
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