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hello again columbus underground. 614 magazine is featured in the other paper again here:
http://www.theotherpaper.com/articles/2009/08/20/front/doc4a8c566435187667443981.txt
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614 Magazine Income Article
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somertimeoh
Harrison West
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When I was reading that article at dinner last week I told Lew I couldn't believe people were just outing their salaries like that. Now it makes a little more sense.
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Roland
Clintonville
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Wow. What is the point of posting full names? The article would have been interesting without them. Who thought this would be a good idea?
614 seems to be just one blunder after another. And people giving away personal info for a prize!? Bozos...
Posted 2 years ago # -
Manatee
The eternal present
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Wow! I think I might know who that twenty-something food service person is! And who that boss'-boss'-boss is too!
And in related news, imagine how surprised I was to open 614 and see a prominent photograph of the only one night stand dude I've ever had...
614 is a world of wonder this month....
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Tenzo
Chicago Lakeshore
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“I filled out the sheet because, of course, I wouldn’t mind winning somethingâ€â€like dinner or something to a place I can’t normally afford,†she said.
OK, but some responsibility needs to go to the people who just gave out that kind of information. I've gotten a few phone calls where I'm a finalist in some drawing (according to the caller).
Caller; "Can you tell me your household income"
Me; "No"
Caller, sounding surprised; " What?"
Me; "I said I wouldnt tell you my houshold income"
Caller; "well we need to know this"
Me; "If telling you my income is a prerequisite to winning the prize then I'm not interested"
......I think it was "Buy Direct" that called me.
If they gave out their income and job to a stranger, they need to take some responibility also. Yeah, it was sneaky by 614, but some personal responsibility plays into this.
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David S Lewis
Columbus, OH
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When Lindsey Teter called for an interview, we faxed her a (completed) copy of our survey form. In large print underneath the "name" line it says, verbatim:
NAME IS NOT REQUIRED IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR NAME BEING PRINTED.
Lindsey didn't feel it was necessary to mention that in her article, nor did she provide a byline for something clearly more journalistic in intention than TOP's usual Media Morsels, which are generally snarky grammar policing. Teter, if you would care to do some eye-poking in the daylight, please feel free. I think it would be great to have a journalistic-ethics discussion with her on here, if she would like to engage - My Medium is Dying, why haven't you returned my phone calls?Posted 2 years ago # -
JackWells
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Hey 614Fan why don't you just come out and admit you work for The Other Paper? These exact kinds of "who makes what" stories have been done in countless other cities, and in those cities people give their real names out, and sometimes even more telling information. I was shocked when I read this story, just cause I didn't know how they were able to get the information. My guess is someone filled out the form, got yelled at by their boss, and is now mad at 614 for getting them in trouble. I find it humorous that an article written by someone too cowardly to give their own name in the byline likes to talk smack about other people in town. I've seen my share of mistakes in 614 magazines, but I don't think this is one.
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Bear
The woods
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David S Lewis wrote >>
When Lindsey Teter called for an interview, we faxed her a (completed) copy of our survey form. In large print underneath the "name" line it says, verbatim:
NAME IS NOT REQUIRED IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR NAME BEING PRINTED.
Lindsey didn't feel it was necessary to mention that in her article, nor did she provide a byline for something clearly more journalistic in intention than TOP's usual Media Morsels, which are generally snarky grammar policing. Teter, if you would care to do some eye-poking in the daylight, please feel free. I think it would be great to have a journalistic-ethics discussion with her on here, if she would like to engage - My Medium is Dying, why haven't you returned my phone calls?So you have no intention of defending the ethics of the article in its own right, and you'd rather discuss how much more ethical it is than something that some other journalist wrote?
Fail.
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Bear
The woods
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I mean, seems to me that the main question is, are the people who were interviewed ok with the outcome -- that is, having their names printed alongside their incomes in an article that's distributed around Columbus?
It sounds, from some of their reactions in TOP, as though they're not.
I'm not sure how that came about, but it seems to me that it's 614's responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen, and to own up to the mistake if it does. That's what giving an interview in good faith is all about.
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lisathewaitress
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I thought this quote was interesting, and a curious, non-logical argument of the sort which makes me question everything someone says:
Lewis maintains 614 magazine’s means of collecting the data was on the up-and-up, moreso than daily publications, which regularly print the salaries of public officials without their permission
I am pretty sure the salaries of public officials are a matter of public record, no?
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lisathewaitress
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edited b/c of accidental double post.
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Tigertree
771 N. High St.
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I have a friend on that list that was pretty upset by being published. He said the people collecting the information made him feel like the contact side of things were given more in the event that he won the prize.
Some things I think are weird from the list; 3 of the 5 ceo's are named steven. The Alum Creek Park Officer makes way more than a State Trooper or City Cop.
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Tenzo
Chicago Lakeshore
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Bear wrote >>
I mean, seems to me that the main question is, are the people who were interviewed ok with the outcome --I don't think that is fair.
You knowingly submit to an interview, you don't get to approve the outcome or the conclusions of the interviewer.Ever watch 60 minutes, or even better, The Colbert Report.
It's up to the interviewer to select what parts they deem pertinent and package it however they want. As long as they don't take it out of context, fair is fair.
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joev
Merion Village
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I think salary information is interesting and important to see - Americans don't talk about that enough, and I think companies can get way with paying some new workers less than they're worth. I don't think tying it to an individual is necessary, especially if the means of doing so were duplicitous.
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Cookie
Flyntonville
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Tenzo wrote >>
I don't think that is fair.
You knowingly submit to an interview, you don't get to approve the outcome or the conclusions of the interviewer.
Ever watch 60 minutes, or even better, The Colbert Report.
It's up to the interviewer to select what parts they deem pertinent and package it however they want. As long as they don't take it out of context, fair is fair.I'm getting the impresson the people involved each filled out a form without a complete understanding what would happen with all of the information provided on that form, not that they were interviewed by anybody.
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