http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile ColumbusUnderground.com Messageboard en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:57:47 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/search.php http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267908 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:32:03 +0000 10sun 267908@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>jamesbickford wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265878"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> When I worked in real estate it wasn't uncommon to witness a "three martini lunch"</p></blockquote> <p>Real estate background here too.<br /> We typically spent most days and the better part of our evenings in the office from 10am til 9pm. We'd drink throughout the day; sometimes we'd surprise the rest of the office with bloody marys, sometimes we'd bring in a couple craft beers, and usually we had at least 5 bottles of vodka kicking around.</p> <p>We never hid it. We never abused it. Never had any issues with clients disapproving; rather we'd be generous, offer a drink, and in a way I think that helped in the long run because it demonstrated a jovial prosperity that clients were attracted to. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267906 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:28:38 +0000 JonMyers 267906@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Bear wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267905"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> I wouldn't at all mind living in a place where lunchtime culture was more relaxed and relaxing and therefore more conducive to a drink. But I'm not sure that creating such a culture by starting with the drinking part would work. It might be like trying to stick a chicken back inside an egg... sort of doing things in the wrong order?</p></blockquote> <p>I agree. </p> <p>I've been thinking about this concept a bit. I know a lot of people say we should start with small, incremental changes like a drink at lunch. I don't see it happening. One of the reasons is that we have a a culture of fear and liability we need to get past, which isn't limited to Columbus. </p> <p>We make rules, laws and policies based on "what if one person did this". What if a person takes two drinks at lunch, takes three, takes four. My thought is someone will - there will always be a few people that take things to far. </p> <p>If we can get past the reality of a few bad apple we'd have a lot more cool things going on beyond a beer at lunch. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267905 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:20:16 +0000 Bear 267905@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>I wouldn't at all mind living in a place where lunchtime culture was more relaxed and relaxing and therefore more conducive to a drink. But I'm not sure that creating such a culture by starting with the drinking part would work. It might be like trying to stick a chicken back inside an egg... sort of doing things in the wrong order? </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267811 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:00:43 +0000 Walker 267811@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Might be a bit of a tougher sell... but I'd love to see the plan you put together for promoting it. ;) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267755 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:31:44 +0000 ja 267755@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Walker wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267747"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> I've been thinking about this topic quite a bit this week... posted some thoughts here:<br /> <a href="http://www.walkerevanseffect.com/blog/changing-the-workday-lunch-culture/" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkerevanseffect.com/blog/changing-the-workday-lunch-culture/</a><br /> (And yes... I posted this earlier in the wrong thread. Doh!) </p></blockquote> <p> Why limit it to alcohol at lunch? Why not bring back smoking and extend it to marijuana to get the creative juices flowing for the exchange of ideas and camaraderie? </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/3#post-267747 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:28:56 +0000 Walker 267747@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>I've been thinking about this topic quite a bit this week... posted some thoughts here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.walkerevanseffect.com/blog/changing-the-workday-lunch-culture/" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkerevanseffect.com/blog/changing-the-workday-lunch-culture/</a></p> <p>(And yes... I posted this earlier in the wrong thread. Doh!) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265878 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:54:55 +0000 jamesbickford 265878@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>When I worked in real estate it wasn't uncommon to witness a "three martini lunch" </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265782 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:37:40 +0000 agtw31 265782@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>arenn wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265767"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> While we're on a topic from my blog, I thought I would share my latest piece too. I did an op-ed for the Oregonian and wrapped it with a comparison of Indianapolis and Portland. I didn't pull the numbers, but I have a feeling that if you dropped Columbus in there instead of Indy, you'd get the same trend. The two cities are nearly identical in so many ways. In short, Columbus has got nothing to be ashamed of.<br /> <a href="http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/</a></p></blockquote> <p>make this another topic,it is interesting </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265770 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:44:24 +0000 sugarplumclarey 265770@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>I moved here when I was 24, and for the life of me I couldn't find a job in the creative sector; the only options seemed to be retail/fashion, which isn't my box of cookies. Having lived here a while, I'm now aware that there are a lot of options for creative-type job seekers. But they weren't readily visible to me as a new transplant. The only jobs with growth options seemed to be with Battelle, Nationwide, etc. I couldn't find a company that seemed "cool" enough to work for (though I did find great nonprofit work.)</p> <p>Would've loved to have a central location where I could go to learn about Columbus' creative scenes (a la CU, but for job seekers and transplants), living options, etc. You can only turn up so many stones on Craigslist, and I didn't know a ton of people to help me connect before I moved here either.</p> <p>Rastapasta, I totally agree with what you said <blockquote>(there are many companies here in Columbus clamoring for young, hip and creative talent.)</blockquote></p> <p>Existing creative types and leaders of the young/hip/urban sector are doing some amazing stuff. The problem is that outsiders don't know about it, and not having lived here yet, they may not have as much of an incentive to participate in the creatively entrepreneurial initiatives going on, since it can be a risk to do so. Even if it were protocol to drink scotch at breakfast here, nobody would know about it until they moved here, you get my drift? Either way, forcing that sort of cultural phenomenon thing never works too well in my experience. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265767 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:22:13 +0000 arenn 265767@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>While we're on a topic from my blog, I thought I would share my latest piece too. I did an op-ed for the Oregonian and wrapped it with a comparison of Indianapolis and Portland. I didn't pull the numbers, but I have a feeling that if you dropped Columbus in there instead of Indy, you'd get the same trend. The two cities are nearly identical in so many ways. In short, Columbus has got nothing to be ashamed of.</p> <p><a href="http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/</a> </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265755 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:23:22 +0000 Schoolboy 265755@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>a drink even 2 depending on your tolerance at lunch is great... perfectly fine in my opinion</p> <p>that is until someone at your company sees you doing it</p> <p>then suddenly you are labeled an alky and fired </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265747 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:33:28 +0000 Walker 265747@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Anyone remember this commercial from a few years back?</p> <p><a href="http://adland.tv/commercials/sam-adams-samuel-adams-business-lunch-short-2003-015-usa" rel="nofollow">http://adland.tv/commercials/sam-adams-samuel-adams-business-lunch-short-2003-015-usa</a> </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265746 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:32:30 +0000 Walker 265746@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Everyone knows that it's much better for your health to wash down a Thurman Burger lunch with a coke instead of a beer. ;) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265724 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:53:10 +0000 DCist 265724@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>agtw31 wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265631"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> here in Columbus,a drink at lunch is like a Lay's potato chip.<br /> you can't have just one.</p></blockquote> <p>I find it hilarious that ONE beer a lunch is EVIL in the business world. I LIKE the taste of wine/beer/martini and yes, I am a young person. I think its been given a bad name by people who get sloppy drunk. I dont know why everyone's talking about it like its a horrible, evil, immoral thing. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265716 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:27:40 +0000 Walker 265716@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>ZHC wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265707"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> I don't know if that would give Columbus much of a competitive advantage, as this would be something that would be very easily copied...</p></blockquote> <p>I dunno... I think we're already a step ahead of most cities...</p> <p>- <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forbes-ranks-columbus-as-third-drunkest-city">Forbes Ranks Columbus as Third Drunkest City</a> (2006)</p> <p>- <a>Ohio Liquor Sales Hit Record High in 2009</a></p> <p>;) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265707 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:48:58 +0000 ZHC 265707@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>JonMyers wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265701"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite></p> <p>I remember when I took a tour of the Modern Finance building many of the executive offices had hidden mini-bars in the walls that would sort of swing out all bat cave style. The walls were that awesome St. James Tavern style wood paneling. It was awesome.<br /> . </p></blockquote> <p>I liked the mini-fridge on the second floor that had a pink interior . Very 50's kind of thing.</p> <p>I did think the air raid sirens on the roof were even cooler though.</p> <p>back on topic- I have a hard time seeing this become wide spread in the litigious age and town we live in. But even if it did I don't know if that would give Columbus much of a competitive advantage, as this would be something that would be very easily copied...</p> <p>To be honest it seems to vary firm by firm anyway than city by city. I know a few places that are cool with it around town and I know others that aren't.</p> <p>So I agree with Jon and Jungaroo </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265701 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:03:19 +0000 JonMyers 265701@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Rastapasta wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265676"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> Many people used to drink heavily in finance and banking, including in house corporate positions throughout the 70's and 80's. From what I know, this is limited to only special folks (pedigreed) now..<br /> I think lawyers are the only professionals I know who drink regularly at lunch these days.</p></blockquote> <p>I remember when I took a tour of the Modern Finance building many of the executive offices had hidden mini-bars in the walls that would sort of swing out all bat cave style. The walls were that awesome St. James Tavern style wood paneling. It was awesome. </p> <p>I remember after the tour thinking how lame and dull we've become on issues like drinking. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265695 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:40:17 +0000 arenn 265695@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Tell me I can drink at lunch and offer me a decent job, maybe I'll move to Columbus.... </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265679 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:59:19 +0000 Rastapasta 265679@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>sugarplumclarey wrote <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265677"> &gt;&gt; </a></cite><br /> What does "attracting talent" mean to companies? What sort of talent? Is it referring to the young, hip, creative class?</p> </blockquote> <p>It would depend on the city and industry within that city.</p> <p>"Young talent" means something different in each industry-- for lawyers,bankers,accountants it means willing to work 70+ hours a week to make the partners $. For those in creative industries, young talent is a motivated person with fresh ideas.</p> <p>I might be wrong, but I don't think there are many companies here in Columbus clamoring for young, hip and creative talent. These jobs are created by entrepreneurs. I really think we need to continue to attract and encourage entrepreneurs (whom already have their own ability to decide if they'd like to drink at lunch or not).</p> <p>I don't think this article really applies to Columbus at the angle I see it at. Lunch drinking could be a tactic for cities that are competing against New York firm's to draw top quality talent to big law, accounting, etc. Less prestigious firms already try luring talent by promising less hours, a better work/life balance; lunch drinking would be a great addition. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/want-talent-drink-at-lunch-urbanophile/page/2#post-265677 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:53:53 +0000 sugarplumclarey 265677@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>What does "attracting talent" mean to companies? What sort of talent? Is it referring to the young, hip, creative class? </p>