http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom ColumbusUnderground.com Messageboard en-US Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:52:57 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/search.php http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/11#post-431457 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:54:12 +0000 Walker 431457@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>bucki12 <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/11#post-431435">said</a>:</cite><br /> I have not been on the #21 late night bar hopping COTA bus but imagine most people know their limits.</p></blockquote> <p>I've only ridden a few times, but it has always felt like more of a regular bus than a bar-hopping party bus full of drunks. Perhaps it's different at last call at 2:30am, but not that I've experienced personally. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/11#post-431435 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:13:35 +0000 bucki12 431435@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Yeah, you can buy alcohol on some commuter trains on the east cost. I have not been on the #21 late night bar hopping COTA bus but imagine most people know their limits. Common sense says that stumbling drunks make easy targets for other crimes so getting off of a bus smashed or waiting drunk at an urban stop seems pretty stupid. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/11#post-431434 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:52:12 +0000 TomOver 431434@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>peanutnozone <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-426396">said</a>:</cite><br /> <blockquote>A streetcar full of the inebriated sure sounds like a fun time. </blockquote></p> <p>Thought I'd put it out there...alcohol and public transit don't necessarily mix. I usually hold my liquor REALLY well...but I got pretty smashed St Patrick's day (Saturday night) and I totally projectile vomited on the metro ride home. I blame it on drunk + all that stopping and lurching...urk.... </p></blockquote> <p>Alcohol intoxication mixes less well with motoring. Drunken driving can lead to things much worse than puking on folk or being puked on. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431410 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:37:43 +0000 johnwirtz 431410@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Rockmastermike <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431386">said</a>:</cite><br /> was speaking of the general plot to kill people via cheap crappy "food", not the profitability of hostess (good riddance to horrible products). </p></blockquote> <p>As long as Little Debbie stays in business, I'm good. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431386 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:36:43 +0000 Rockmastermike 431386@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>gramarye <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431252">said</a>:</cite><br /> Hah! Not really; Hostess has filed for bankruptcy <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/hostess-bankruptcy-_n_1198789.html">twice in the past few years</a>.</p> </blockquote> <p>was speaking of the general plot to kill people via cheap crappy "food", not the profitability of hostess (good riddance to horrible products). </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431259 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:04:30 +0000 myliftkk 431259@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>gramarye <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431252">said</a>:</cite><br /> Hah! Not really; Hostess has filed for bankruptcy <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/hostess-bankruptcy-_n_1198789.html">twice in the past few years</a>. </p></blockquote> <p>Turns out there's not a big market for Halal Ho-Hos eh? </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431252 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:41:33 +0000 gramarye 431252@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Rockmastermike <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431224">said</a>:</cite><br /> That one is working all too well. </p></blockquote> <p>Hah! Not really; Hostess has filed for bankruptcy <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/hostess-bankruptcy-_n_1198789.html">twice in the past few years</a>. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431242 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:59:04 +0000 rus 431242@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Rockmastermike <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431241">said</a>:</cite><br /> its the Internets. EVERYTHING is an elaborate hoax or a work of fiction until proven otherwise and such proof has also been proven accurate.</p> <p>The Onion has been a purveyor of fine parody and satire for over 100 years. Look it up on wikipedia if you don't believe me. </p></blockquote> <p>Pshaw. I'll just check snopes... </p> <p>wait. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431241 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:57:07 +0000 Rockmastermike 431241@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>its the Internets. EVERYTHING is an elaborate hoax or a work of fiction until proven otherwise and such proof has also been proven accurate.</p> <p>The Onion has been a purveyor of fine parody and satire for over 100 years. Look it up on wikipedia if you don't believe me. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431234 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:44:51 +0000 Buster Bluth 431234@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Well played. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431233 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:36:49 +0000 rus 431233@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431232">said</a>:</cite><br /> This is a joke right? Why don't al-qaeda can go shove it. ;) </p></blockquote> <p>From the onion?</p> <p>Always a source of hard hitting news, that. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431232 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:34:10 +0000 CalebR 431232@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>This is a joke right? Why don't al-qaeda can go shove it. ;) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431225 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:17:21 +0000 Walker 431225@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Ha! Good stuff. ;) </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431224 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:10:21 +0000 Rockmastermike 431224@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>myliftkk <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431219">said</a>:</cite><br /> OTOH - I heard Al Qaeda invested all of their resources in Hostess figuring that would give them the perfect opportunity to slaughter American though their mass transportation of snack cakes, and shitty healthcare. </p></blockquote> <p>That one is working all too well. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431223 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:08:26 +0000 johnwirtz 431223@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>LOL! </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431219 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:55:15 +0000 myliftkk 431219@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>^ Well that's it then. No choo-choo for you. No sense in being a terrorist target after all...</p> <p>OTOH - I heard Al Qaeda invested all of their resources in Hostess figuring that would give them the perfect opportunity to slaughter American though their mass transportation of snack cakes, and shitty healthcare. </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-431216 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:36:59 +0000 Rockmastermike 431216@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/alqaeda-claims-us-mass-transportation-infrastructu,21008/">Al-Qaeda Claims U.S. Mass Transportation Infrastructure Must Drastically Improve Before Any Terrorist Attacks</a></p> <p><blockquote><br /> The al-Qaeda commander confirmed his organization initially hoped to cripple travel in the United States by destroying its nationwide high-speed rail system, but had been shocked to discover no such thing exists.</p> <p>al-Zawahiri blasted the U.S. government for its lack of foresight and admonished its leaders for failing to provide Americans with efficient and reliable modes of public transport to reduce traffic congestion, lower carbon emissions, improve air quality, and supply suitable targets for terrorists.</p> <p>"The al-Qaeda network is fully prepared to continue the jihad against the American infidels by launching deadly attacks, but your outdated and rusting transportation infrastructure needs to be completely overhauled for those strikes even to be noticed," al-Zawahiri said. "We want to turn your bridges into rubble, but if we claimed credit for making them collapse, nobody would ever believe us."</p> <p>"We'd really just be doing you a favor because then you'd actually have to rebuild them," al-Zawahiri added.</p> <p>"It's ridiculous that the Netherlands, the world's 16th-ranked economy, is continuously investing in its infrastructure, while the No. 1 economy simply refuses to enter the 21st century," said al-Zawahiri, adding that Americans should be ashamed of having only one operational high-speed rail line, considering the Dutch have 120. "And of course, we don't want to bring the Netherlands to its knees and make its people question the unholy excesses of their way of life. No one would care if we did that."</p> <p></blockquote> </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-430834 Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:14:12 +0000 CalebR 430834@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p>Some positive(?) news.... </p> <p><center>==================</center></p> <p><strong>Amtrak on Pace to Set New Ridership Record</strong><br /> PR Newswire – Wed, Apr 11, 2012</p> <p>WASHINGTON, April 11, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Amtrak is on pace to set another new annual ridership record as passenger counts across its national network for the first six months of fiscal year 2012 (October 2011 - March 2012) are up 3.7 percent over the same period last year when the current record was established. </p> <p>To read more: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/amtrak-pace-set-ridership-record-143107738.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/amtrak-pace-set-ridership-record-143107738.html</a> </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-426396 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:43:41 +0000 peanutnozone 426396@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <p><blockquote>A streetcar full of the inebriated sure sounds like a fun time. </blockquote></p> <p>Thought I'd put it out there...alcohol and public transit don't necessarily mix. I usually hold my liquor REALLY well...but I got pretty smashed St Patrick's day (Saturday night) and I totally projectile vomited on the metro ride home. I blame it on drunk + all that stopping and lurching...urk.... </p> http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-426374 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:09:13 +0000 johnwirtz 426374@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><cite>Walker <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/us-poised-for-passenger-rail-boom/page/10#post-426352">said</a>:</cite><br /> I can understand and appreciate where you're coming from in regards to funding sources, but if a Streetcar line could replace an existing bus line in some capacity, then it would allow existing transit spending to be allocated elsewhere. I don't think it has to be duplicative. </p></blockquote> <p>It seems that might apply more to the operating costs than the capital costs, but I generally agree with you. My 20% number was just made up for illustrative purposes. Some kind of more detailed calculation of the costs and benefits of the streetcar compared to other alternatives (similar to what is being done for Cleveland Avenue BRT) could be used to allocate capital and operating costs appropriately. </p>