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		<title>Columbus Underground Messageboard &#187; Topic: Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus</title>
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			<title>mbeaumont on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482544</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mbeaumont</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah, you could be right! They may not be looking in the downtown area. But they should! ;)
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482524</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Gotcha. I just assumed that if their current expansions continue to look like they do, I imagine their site search in the market might only get as urban as The Shops on Lane Avenue.
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			<title>mbeaumont on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482521</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mbeaumont</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;For the same reason that it was a good location for FlipSide. I think a gourmet burger place would do well with crowds from the convention center (not that they can't get a great burger at Knead). &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't think the fact that his other locations are in suburban locations or at sports facilities means the concept wouldn't translate to an urban location.
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482514</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;mbeaumont &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482500&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Sounds like a perfect location for a Columbus B Spot.&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Why's that? I seem to recall reading that all of his B Spot locations are in suburban locations.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Looking at their website, it looks like they also have one in the Cleveland Casino and inside 2 stadiums (only open during games/events).
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			<title>zp945 on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482510</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;Neil Jaye &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482508&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Ok, maybe I am doing my math wrong but this rent comes out to about $2.40 per sq foot and the previous post says $29 per sq ft.  $2.40 is fairly reasonable for the area but $29 seems really high.   Was it suppose to be 2.90 per sq ft or am I missing something?&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;It's $29 PSF per year not per month.
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			<title>Neil Jaye on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Neil Jaye</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;mrpoppinzs &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482496&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
I imagine that the upstairs will probably be used as apartments, possibly by another entity. So the basement and main floor are 5000 sqft for $12083 per month. A percentage of the build out cost (tenant improvement) is usually worked into the length of the term of the lease.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't think that price is bad at all for that prime location. It takes money to make money.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.inc.com/articles/201111/business-start-up-costs-restaurant.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.inc.com/articles/201111/business-start-up-costs-restaurant.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Rent/operating costs:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Security deposit (typically one month of rent at $10,000 to $12,000)&#60;br /&#62;
First-month rent ($10,000 to $12,000)&#60;br /&#62;
First-month utilities, including Internet and phone service ($2,500)&#60;/em&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Ok, maybe I am doing my math wrong but this rent comes out to about $2.40 per sq foot and the previous post says $29 per sq ft.  $2.40 is fairly reasonable for the area but $29 seems really high.   Was it suppose to be 2.90 per sq ft or am I missing something?
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			<title>tolemac5050 on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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Sounds like a perfect location for a Columbus B Spot. I know Michael Symon has been interested in the Cbus market.
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&#60;p&#62;++++1...Love B Spot!
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			<title>mbeaumont on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Sounds like a perfect location for a Columbus B Spot. I know Michael Symon has been interested in the Cbus market.
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			<title>mrpoppinzs on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482496</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mrpoppinzs</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I imagine that the upstairs will probably be used as apartments, possibly by another entity. So the basement and main floor are 5000 sqft for $12083 per month. A percentage of the build out cost (tenant improvement) is usually worked into the length of the term of the lease.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't think that price is bad at all for that prime location. It takes money to make money.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.inc.com/articles/201111/business-start-up-costs-restaurant.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.inc.com/articles/201111/business-start-up-costs-restaurant.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Rent/operating costs:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Security deposit (typically one month of rent at $10,000 to $12,000)&#60;br /&#62;
First-month rent ($10,000 to $12,000)&#60;br /&#62;
First-month utilities, including Internet and phone service ($2,500)&#60;/em&#62;
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			<title>Twixlen on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
			<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482493</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;At $29/sq + build out (plus all the regular work the building needs), it's going to take someone with major cash to take on that project.
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;mrpoppinzs &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-482430&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
The interesting thing I got from that is this high end realtor is using a hotmail address...
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&#60;p&#62;Ha! Randy is a good dude, despite his hotmail address. ;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.themetropreneur.com/columbus/tips-finding-ideal-restaurant-space/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.themetropreneur.com/columbus/tips-finding-ideal-restaurant-space/&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>mrpoppinzs on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mrpoppinzs</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The interesting thing I got from that is this high end realtor is using a hotmail address...
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			<title>tolemac5050 on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>tolemac5050</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Interesting copy of e-mail from Randy Sokol:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The popular building that is known as YANKEE TRADER is looking for a restaurant or bar for this property. This is located at 463 N High St.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It is an empty space that needs built out, either totally by new tenant, or with TI help from owners. The basement would be great for a party/banquet room for the business that goes on the Main Floor.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are 3 floors that are available:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Basement- 2000 sq ft&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Main Floor- 3000 sq ft&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2nd Floor- 1700 sq ft&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The rent will be somewhere around the $29 sq ft range&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This building is right across street from the Convention Center on High st, a block away from the NEW Hilton Hotel, next to a building that Hyde Park is building a fish concept, in front of the very busy North Market, block away from Martini's Restaurant, and next to Barleys.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This area is already very busy and will get busier with the upcoming convention, that will increase due to the new Hilton&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Contact Randy Sokol for a walk thru of this Great Location&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;                   &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:r.sokol@hotmail.com&#34;&#62;r.sokol@hotmail.com&#60;/a&#62;  614-204-4904
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			<title>ntn on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Old bar/club space that was given up by the plasma center?(optimistically hoping)
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;lucero &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-480804&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
It's going in the old Yankee Trader location to my understanding.
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&#60;p&#62;Nope. Melt is not going into that spot.
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			<title>lucero on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>lucero</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;edg126 &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/4#post-479815&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
They said they had a spot locked up in the short north.  Any ideas where?
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&#60;p&#62;It's going in the old Yankee Trader location to my understanding.
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			<title>edg126 on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;Walker &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/flip-side-burger-restaurant-coming-to-columbus/page/3#post-479655&#34;&#62;said&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Melt is coming, but not to that spot. ;)
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&#60;p&#62;They said they had a spot locked up in the short north.  Any ideas where?
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;No need for insults.
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			<title>FSonicSmith on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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burgers from flip side are not small........this is why america has obesity problems
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&#60;p&#62;I'll bet a growler of craft beer I am skinnier than you are you self righteous PC zealot! Just name a place and time to weigh in for a BMI fight.
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			<title>Walker on "Flip Side Burger Restaurant Coming to Columbus"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
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Sort of off-topic, but does anyone know what the deal with this building is?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://goo.gl/maps/FUxGC&#34;&#62;http://goo.gl/maps/FUxGC&#60;/a&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;I knew exactly which building you were talking about before I even clicked the link. ;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But no... no idea what the deal is with that one.
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