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Columbus Underground Messageboard » Tag: corporations - Recent Posts http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/tags/corporations ColumbusUnderground.com Messageboard en-US Wed, 22 May 2013 17:33:14 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/search.php stephentszuter on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-466166 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:31:51 +0000 stephentszuter 466166@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Walker <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465852">said</a>:</cite> Really? At the big corporate job I previously worked probably 90% of the building started between 8 and 9 and finished between 5 and 6. Very little variation. </blockquote> You can argue either way, but yeah, I tend to agree with you. I wasn't about to argue with the man about plausibility... I'm usually in at around 7am and leave at around 5pm, but the more common work hours are around 8am to 6pm (gone are the eight-hour work days). I digress. I know we're discussing shuttles here, but the issue with taking COTA out to the boonies (N'albany) is that there is only one bus in the morning, and it takes an hour on the bus to get to the stop. Once at the stop, there is another 3 miles to go before we get to the stop. Not to mention I would need to get to the stop on Broad and High on time, which would require either a twenty minute walk or waiting for the bus long enough to get there, which would probably also take 20 minutes. So it can be up to 3.5x as long as my driving trip... I know we all know the challenges that COTA faces and all of the issues involved therein, so I'm not going to get into that. My brother in Chicago has a very similar situation right now, though. He lives in Chicago, but commutes all the way to basically the border of Wisconsin. His employer has some shuttles waiting at the local train station so that they can get to and from their buildings and the train station. It's a pretty nice setup, and it seems to me to be much more plausible than to convince employers to provide transportation for them for long distances like that. But I'm having trouble convincing my employer to do the minimum and supply a bus shuttle from in-town at the COTA stop... It would be pretty nice, though. I think I would try it out here and there and if I liked it (and it were an express route), I think it wouldn't do too poorly. Because you're right--the younger urbanites that work at the suburban locations are more open to public transportation than previous generations. Which I'm sure you all already know. I digress. Again. lifeontwowheels on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465855 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:03:46 +0000 lifeontwowheels 465855@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Walker <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465852">said</a>:</cite> Really? At the big corporate job I previously worked probably 90% of the building started between 8 and 9 and finished between 5 and 6. Very little variation. </blockquote> Pretty much my experience at the 2 corporations I worked for. International and west coast desks not withstanding. Walker on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465852 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:56:25 +0000 Walker 465852@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>stephentszuter <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465836">said</a>:</cite> The issue was that the schedules of the employees varies greatly.</blockquote> Really? At the big corporate job I previously worked probably 90% of the building started between 8 and 9 and finished between 5 and 6. Very little variation. stephentszuter on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465836 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:42:22 +0000 stephentszuter 465836@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ I contacted my employer about getting a shuttle to wait at the local COTA stop (in New Albany), let alone shuttle employees from downtown. The issue was that the schedules of the employees varies greatly. It's true, as well. COTA doesn't come to New Albany enough in the morning (only once or twice) and doesn't leave at convenient enough times. In short, it's not frequent enough. But that makes sense, because the demand isn't high enough from Downtown to NA. Nonetheless, getting my employer (one of the initially mentioned) to shuttle employees from downtown is a different beast entirely. Also, which route would the bus take? A lot of the employees are primarily concentrated in the downtown area, but that's also a large area. I would be willing to walk about 15 minutes to get to the shuttle, but add in the extra commute time on the shuttle and we're talking 2x the travel time all whilst already owning a car... I think it would be easier to just get started on a light-rail system than to convince our employers to start a shuttle system... Something to think about, though, and I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been thinking about this. dubdave00 on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465817 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:09:42 +0000 dubdave00 465817@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ I like the idea but until companies see a competitive advantage or face losing great talent (Over an unwillingness to drive for 20 minutes), not sure they'll front the money. Apple, Google, Twitter, etc are fighting to keep employees from jumping ship between each other. Not sure that's as big here between our big companies. jeffisbiking on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465774 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:33:52 +0000 jeffisbiking 465774@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Walker <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465754">said</a>:</cite> True, having done the "reverse commute" myself years ago when I worked at The Limited, it wasn't much of a hassle at all commuting from Downtown. So perhaps the need isn't as great here. Though I was one of the thousands of IT workers at the place and we *never* left the building other than for the occasional lunch (though the cafeteria out there is pretty amazing). ;) That being said, a company like A&F employs a lot of college grads and 20/30 somethings. There is a constant churn of "buyers" who move here from all around the US to work at Abercrombie before either burning out or spring boarding to another company. Many of them are set up to live in German Village or the Short North usually in larger groups, so there's probably some carpooling that naturally happens. Still, I imagine that a branded/private shuttle bus for those employees would not be completely out of the realm of possibility. </blockquote> I first thought the idea was crazy considering companies wouldn't feel a need to run shuttles back and forth when they make employees rely on their own transportation so much already. Then I thought about my employer (Nationwide), who has big office buildings in Dublin, Lewis Center, (soon to be in) New Albany, as well as downtown. I could definitely see them running shuttles between their locations for meetings (especially downtown). Granted, this might not help as much for the commute from home to the office, but the idea intrigued me. Walker on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465754 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:36:56 +0000 Walker 465754@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>bucki12 <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465747">said</a>:</cite> In the SF example, 30 miles is quite a trek (especially considering CA traffic). I imagine being able to read a kindle and leave the driving to someone else for the long commute is a good portion of its appeal.</blockquote> True, having done the "reverse commute" myself years ago when I worked at The Limited, it wasn't much of a hassle at all commuting from Downtown. So perhaps the need isn't as great here. Though I was one of the thousands of IT workers at the place and we *never* left the building other than for the occasional lunch (though the cafeteria out there is pretty amazing). ;) That being said, a company like A&F employs a lot of college grads and 20/30 somethings. There is a constant churn of "buyers" who move here from all around the US to work at Abercrombie before either burning out or spring boarding to another company. Many of them are set up to live in German Village or the Short North usually in larger groups, so there's probably some carpooling that naturally happens. Still, I imagine that a branded/private shuttle bus for those employees would not be completely out of the realm of possibility. bucki12 on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465747 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:22:23 +0000 bucki12 465747@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Really don't see it happening here anytime soon. I am not sure the demand is here. Many of the people I know who live downtown (VV,SN,IV, GV) and work in the burbs, work pretty varied schedules and rely on their cars for more than just getting to and from work in the weekly grind (going to meetings, getting lunch, picking up kids at daycare etc). I also think the employees would rather have that $$ in the form of other benefits (better health care, 401k etc). In the SF example, 30 miles is quite a trek (especially considering CA traffic). I imagine being able to read a kindle and leave the driving to someone else for the long commute (1+ hours each way) is a good portion of its appeal. lifeontwowheels on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465740 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:07:35 +0000 lifeontwowheels 465740@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Having worked in a suburban office park until just recently I feel it would be a pretty uphill battle. The closest we had was a shuttle for employees using the company run NYC charter plane. I think a shuttle to and from a suburban transit center paired with efficient transit service would be embracedore quickly. Walker on "Should Suburban Office Parks Run Shuttles to Downtown Neighborhoods?" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/should-suburban-office-parks-run-shuttles-to-downtown-neighborhoods#post-465727 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:22:32 +0000 Walker 465727@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Quite often I hear people complain that COTA's services are inadequate for suburban commutes, as well as reverse commutes for people who want to live close to Downtown but keep their jobs located around 270 at larger employers such as The Limited, Abercrombie, Cardinal Health, Chase, etc. A good example of that ongoing conversation can be found <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/suburban-office-parks-poses-challenge-for-cota">HERE</a>. So I found this article & map over at HumanTransit.org to be pretty interesting: <a href="http://www.humantransit.org/2012/10/the-silicon-valley-shuttles-revealed.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.humantransit.org/2012/10/the-silicon-valley-shuttles-revealed.html</a> <img src="http://www.columbusunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sf-buses.jpg" /> In a nutshell, the big employers in the suburban Silicon Valley (Google, Apple, eBay, Yahoo, Facebook , EA) are running private bus shuttle services (much of it duplicative) to get their urban-dwelling San Francisco employees to their suburban jobs 30 miles away. Does this private approach make sense here in Columbus where public transit doesn't quite work as well? Is the urban workforce large enough at these suburban office parks for this type of setup to make sense? Or does something along these lines already exist that I'm just not aware of? Thoughts? ehill27 on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-431539 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:18:02 +0000 ehill27 431539@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>ehill27 <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-428798">said</a>:</cite> Crew Stadium has been seeking to sell naming rights. Given all the other major venues are taken, seems that this would be a good fit for the regions largest private employer. </blockquote> Well, speaking of... <a href="http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/25/0425-the-hot-issue-who-should-buy-the-naming-rights-to-crew-stadium.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/25/0425-the-hot-issue-who-should-buy-the-naming-rights-to-crew-stadium.html</a> <a href="http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2012/04/25/crew-seeks-sponsors-of-giant-sign-stadium.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2012/04/25/crew-seeks-sponsors-of-giant-sign-stadium.html</a> ehill27 on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-428798 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:46:06 +0000 ehill27 428798@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Crew Stadium has been seeking to sell naming rights. Given all the other major venues are taken, seems that this would be a good fit for the regions largest private employer. pez on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-428033 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:32:29 +0000 pez 428033@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Like many large companies, my guess is that most of Chase's philanthropic giving is done through an employee matching gift program. In these plans, employees typically donate through one-time or ongoing payroll deductions or submit donation receipts to the program then the company makes a full or percentage match to that charity. While there is still a place for large marquee corporate sponsorships for non-profits, matching programs help ensure that the causes that are important to the bank teller in Evansville, IN have the same chance as those supported by the finance manager in Columbus. ehill27 on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-428012 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:46:20 +0000 ehill27 428012@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>CMHflyer <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427805">said</a>:</cite> ...Though I guess one could argue that providing Central Ohio with several thousand new, well-paying jobs is pretty philanthropic in and of itself. </blockquote> Absolutely! However, major regional employers around the country and the world typically take an active role in their respective regions. Now, I'm still not saying that Chase isn't doing this, I just haven't heard much to the contrary. Walker on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427829 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:19:59 +0000 Walker 427829@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427797">said</a>:</cite> If you want to keep it so bad... you renovate it. And it was merely an idea. You mustn't expect hard core facts from every human in the world.</blockquote> Tearing a building down creates a huge amount of waste, and building a new one uses a huge amount of material. To make the claim that this is what should happen *should* have some type of facts behind it. CalebR on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427806 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:37:15 +0000 CalebR 427806@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ I knew Chase wouldn't relocate it was simply a dream in words. Although maybe we can convince Chase to put more people downtown with their next expansion. It would be nice and as long as its used and refurbed (maybe a completely new glass facade covering the whole building? Lol) then I guess it would be an amentity. CMHflyer on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427805 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:30:37 +0000 CMHflyer 427805@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ I could've sworn seeing the Chase logo on corporate donor boards in several Columbus non-profits; however a cursory glance at such institutions such as the Columbus Zoo, COSI, and Franklin Park Conservatory yielded no results. I do remember back in the BancOne days their name being plastered around Columbus almost as much as one sees Nationwide currently. Though I guess one could argue that providing Central Ohio with several thousand new, well-paying jobs is pretty philanthropic in and of itself. <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427752">said</a>:</cite> Chase should move its HQ downtown and take over the old Columbia Gas of Ohio building by tearing it down and making a new one. The. It should invest in the surrounding community. The burbs just don't have the downtown feel. Its all car centric really. </blockquote> Chase has too much invested in their Polaris and Westerville facilities to pack up and move downtown. However, I will say, I was hoping that with their latest hiring spree that they would look at filling office space downtown. However, all the new jobs went to leased offices in Gahanna. And regarding the Columbia Gas Building; it might not be the most architecturally significant building ever built, but it can easily and should be repurposed as opposed to being torn down. The building itself and its location would be fantastic for residential or hotel use, especially with its circular drive, large glass lobby, and attached parking. CalebR on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427797 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:39:22 +0000 CalebR 427797@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ If you want to keep it so bad... you renovate it. And it was merely an idea. You mustn't expect hard core facts from every human in the world. Walker on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427791 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:17:14 +0000 Walker 427791@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427790">said</a>:</cite> Yes, that building is overdue for a tearing down.</blockquote> That building is 29 years old. What are you basing your assessment on? <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427790">said</a>:</cite> Eventually buildings have to come down and its time.</blockquote> Untrue. There are many buildings around the world that have stood for centuries. 29 years is young. <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427790">said</a>:</cite> The building isn't very historic.... </blockquote> Based on what? <blockquote><cite>CalebR <a href="http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427790">said</a>:</cite> its odly shaped and inefficient as Columbia even said themselves.</blockquote> Nothing that a renovation can't fix. CalebR on "Corporate Philanthropy in Central Ohio" http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/corporate-philanthropy-in-central-ohio#post-427790 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:06:06 +0000 CalebR 427790@http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/ Yes, that building is overdue for a tearing down. Eventually buildings have to come down and its time. The building isn't very historic.... its odly shaped and inefficient as Columbia even said themselves.