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NBC4i.com wrote
Historic Business To Be Removed For Downtown Split
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008
By Denise Yost
The Interstate 70-Interstate 71 split is one of the most dangerous roadways in Central Ohio. A $1.4 billion road project aims at decreasing crashes in the area, but some area residents said the construction could hurt businesses and the economy in their communities.
The construction to the split is expected to begin in 2010, and for Mike Moore, his concerns aren’t for the inconvenience caused by the project. It’s about the history of his neighborhood. Moore is talking about the ET Paul Tire dealership that has been in business since 1895.
As it stands now, ODOT said it will use the area to build an urban avenue, meaning ET Paul and the bar next door will be removed. But, ODOT officials said they are willing to listen to residents, but they still have to deal with a highway that is one of the most congested and dangerous in Ohio.
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I don’t think this is really new news, but interesting that NBC4 is bringing it back up. Has anyone heard any other updates on this project?
I also updated the NBC4 story, as they have this project listed at $500 Million in their original story, which is the original price tag from several years ago. The current cost of the split fix has jumped to $1.4 billion.
…And then completely ignore them. ODOT has wanted this option from the beginning and no amount of public opinion is going to change that. And the city will let them.
Now if you were to say that Katzingers was going to be torn down to rework the expressway….
Bah! I like Carabar…their chili made me vomit uncontrollably, but other than that…booo. :(
I think they’d be willing to listen to input that suggested a better way to achieve their stated goals; what they’re not going to be particularly keen on hearing is people questioning the goals themselves (i.e., saying that we shouldn’t be fixing the 70/71 split at all or that ODOT otherwise needs to change its priorities–those are set at a pretty high level).
The wikipedian in me suggests that you cite your source for the new price tag. :wink:
Is NBC4 a good enough source? ;)
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008
By Jason Mays
There is new opposition to some of the plans for part of the massive reconstruction on the I-70-71 split downtown.
The $1.4 billion project is designed to make that stretch safer.
It averages two accidents daily and it carries 50,000 more vehicles a day than it was designed.
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^ You beat me to the punch. That article is from the SAME DAY too!
One explanation might be that the $500 million could be for the east leg of the split, while the $1.4 billion is for the whole project.
One explanation might be that the $500 million could be for the east leg of the split, while the $1.4 billion is for the whole project.
pretty sure brewmaster is correct on this assumption. i’m hoping that they are still considering capping most of it with park space and/or retail (i.e. north high st. cap)
NOOOOOOOOO!
While this news might have been out there already, this is the first I realized that Carabar might go.
That totally sucks. Not quite the magnitude of losing Little Brothers. But close.
While this news might have been out there already, this is the first I realized that Carabar might go.
That totally sucks. Not quite the magnitude of losing Little Brothers. But close. So how does this work for Cara and Ron? They don’t own the building but certainly have much invested in the bar. Are they just shit out of luck? Yeah, this sucks.
Wow, this is ridiculous. I must admit I don’t know the Carabar guy at all and don’t spend as much time in that part of town as I should (save for an opening I want to catch at chop chop), but from what I have heard he is pretty much a model for a responsible business owner/business doing its part to clean up a neighborhood and make it better. Every time I drive through that area I imagine what it will be in five years and I think it’s a real shame if that doesn’t get to happen or the city doesn’t at least do something to ensure he goes on somewhere. If you read this forum, consider me and my business at your disposal.
ET Paul, IMO, is the best place to get tires – good price, great service. Mike the manager gave me three of his banana trees – I have a little bit of the tropics in my backyard. It’ll be a shame to see them go – hopefully they’ll move to a good location.
I knew this was on the table, but this sucks..
Keep in mind also that Ron and Cara have lived in the apartment above the bar for 7 or 8 years, so not only will they lose the bar but their home too..
Yeah, definitely sucks for Cara and Ron. I’ve had nothing but great interaction with them every time I’ve been in there. And negative TOP review aside (though perhaps that is a positive?), never heard ANYONE say anything bad about the place.
They’ve built Carabar into an anchor of that part of town, and of the local music scene. To lose them would be a huge setback for everyone. Like mentioned above, Carabar is exactly the type of business that needs to be supported and encouraged by the city.
I wasn’t sure if Cara and Ron owned the place or not, but that sucks especially hard if they don’t get anything out of any sale despite everything they’ve put in.
:evil:
Has anyone gotten a chance to speak with Cara and Ron about this? Or have any idea if the city has any plan to assist them? I can’t stop feeling good about our government in this city, which is pretty rare if you ever talk politics with me. Seeing the way they reacted so quickly to the two wheeled parking problem, the interactions I have had once I starting being more proactive about the streetcar situation and less obnoxious. I am pretty up to date on what cities have done recently as far as helping to subsidize new developments to help businesses thrive and I’d like to think we’re as proactive as anyone.
:( What can be done?
Well, I am not sure yet. Like I said, I don’t know what steps they have taken to jump ship, I don’t know what conversations they have had with anyone. I wouldn’t just accept it though. I certainly think they could garner enough support to show the city that their business matters to it’s community and needs to remain there.
Apologies to the EC crew, I couldn’t help myself.
…but you can drive on a revamped freeway!
Yay, progress!
:roll:
(ETA just went back and saw the smaller print. I’ll still keep my sarcasm in place, though. :D )
If it were just about ease, I’d get more laughs out of that mock-up (OK, I got some laughs out of it anyway, but I’m a white-collar barbarian). Still, don’t forget this is about safety–some of those two accidents a day involve more than just fender scratches, unfortunately.
I have trouble believing that a successful business affected by the reconstruction will be unable to relocate nearby; as has been noted in numerous other threads, we’re not hurting for commercial space begging to be used.