After a few delays and a bit of infighting, a verdict has been reached on the two new members who will be filling the seats vacated by Maryellen O’Shaughnessy and Kevin Boyce at Columbus City Council.
And those two are Eileen Paley and Troy Miller.
More updates will follow shortly.
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Well, one thing I can assure you James. My issues with you aren’t personal, as I don’t know you personally. My issues with you as a candidate for Council are based strictly on your own presented arguments and statements right on this very board. I don’t feel you represent me or my ideals in any way, I feel you see racial bias behind every door and would attempt to legislate based on those beliefs. I think your boss is somewhat guilty of this as well, and quite frankly, the issues facing the city are just far too important to spend much time on race politics. I can go on, but hopefully, that will give you an idea of where I’m coming from.
JawJack said:
As someone who has felt personally demonized by you on several occasions, this is refreshing to hear.
I will continue to push the community on Columbus Underground to get involved with attending City Council meetings, speaking to Council, and making their voices heard, no matter what their stances on issues may be.
jawjack was/is an aide for Tavares! Things make so much more sense now. BTW I completely agree with Core’s post above.
You feel I see “race bias behind every door.” Please explain that.
Walker, I will agree that we have had some misunderstandings. In my opinion, you hold me to a different standard in regards to what i can say to others on the board without gettin a smack down from you. It’s cool though. I still love the debate.
Coremodels, What, specifically are your ideals. I would love to have a discussion about them.
Core, that was perfectly put. It’s a good idea when interested in politics and public policy to avoid calling civic-minded strangers in your constituency elitists and racists.
I want to clarify, I call elitists and racists what they are. Often times there are some very disturbing viewpoints from some of the posters here. Many times, they are not confronted on their views, and quite frequently in my case, if I confront them, I get labeled. I understand that. Insecuritiy breeds that type of response when folks don’t want to debate on real issues.
I make no apologies for my stance on where I want to see resources in this city going. Our core neighborhoods are suffering, and many of the people who post on here could care less. I have a different opinion, and my opinion on our city has nothing to do with race. Mine or yours. Now for the elitists, i am not sure I have ever used that term, but if I have, I will gladly justify it.
jawjack187 Says: “Our core neighborhoods are suffering, and many of the people who post on here could care less. ”
That’s an odd thing to say. I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Are you trying to say that many people that post on here don’t care about city issues? If that’s the case then, yes, I’ll agree. Not everyone on here has to care. But if you’re trying to say that of the people on here that post about the city many don’t care about our core neighborhoods I’d say your dead wrong. Most of us live in them! Do we have all the answers? No. Do we all agree with your views, assessments, statements, about those neighborhoods, certainly not. But it doesn’t mean we don’t care.
somertimeoh,
I try not to lump all CU posters into one basket. I know there are folks who don’t care about the city on here, that was not my point. I do feel that in many discussions, the needs of the core neighborhoods in our city are not being taken seriously. I would hope that you can admit that there is plenty of strong representation of a few neighborhoods, and less representation of others. In my opinion, I would think I normally represent some of those neighborhoods that are “other”. I know we don’t have all the answers, and i do not ever expect everybody to agree with me on all things. That’s lame. But when i do disagree, all that I am asking is that i am held to the same standard as others on the board. It’s only fair.
“I want to clarify, I call elitists and racists what they are. Often times there are some very disturbing viewpoints from some of the posters here. Many times, they are not confronted on their views, and quite frequently in my case, if I confront them, I get labeled. I understand that. Insecuritiy breeds that type of response when folks don’t want to debate on real issues.”
I guess I no longer need to explain to you what I meant, huh?
If they build the streetcar, the racists win.
Where is the “race behind every door” stuff coming from? When race is an issue, yes it needs to be confronted, but race is certainly not always an issue. In my opinion, class is much more of an issue than race in Columbus. Poor and underserved encompasses all races in our city.
JawJack wrote:
I’ve sent private warnings to many different people on many different occasions for many different reasons. Just because you’re not privy to the private warnings of others, doesn’t mean that they don’t get them. Everyone is held to the same standard here in terms of content moderation.
I appreciate it when people are able to take warnings with a bit of humility and not respond to me with condescending and insulting messages.
The statement I quoted pretty much lays out my opinion. If someone has a different value system from you, if they place their priorities in a different order than you, they’re either racist or elitist. It seems you believe that anyone who doesn’t share your vision and focus on poverty, for example, must fit into one of those two labels…and if they disagree, clearly they are just insecure. If they don’t debate the “real issues”, which clearly are defined by you…again, they’re just insecure and not up to your standards.
This kind of ridiculous arrogance and tunnel vision isn’t what I want from a civil servant tasked with being, at least partially, my voice in city government.
I don’t know where you think this double standard is coming from. Anyone who is out of line gets called in. The problem is that you disagree with character attacks. It’s your tactics that are a turn off. Your opinion might be better received without insinuating that those that don’t agree with you are uncaring, mean people.
Let’s refresh our memories with just 2 examples. Most of your posts have been moved to the news side of the board which is no longer searchable, but of the TWELVE posts left here are two fairly good examples of what I’m talking about.
http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/city-proposal-targets-aggressive-panhandling/page/5
http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/columbus-financial-amp-budget-news-and-updates
Jawjack wrote:
I’d say you’re likely to find more people on Columbus Underground who care about our core neighborhoods than any other online resource in this entire city.
Somer wrote:
Yes it is. The search box up top searches both the news and the messageboard.
To clarify walker, you can’t view someone’s posting history from the news side of things.
Thanks, Core, that’s what I meant. Sorry, Walker!
somertimeoh,
Thanks for presenting those links. In looking at them, I fail to see where I called anybody racist or elitist. The aggressive panhandling issue was, for the most part, a SN led piece of legislation. In my opinion, we should not legislate for specific parts of the city. And to be honest, I do feel as if some of the folks who spoke before city council were insensitive. Now that the legislation has passed (7-0) I know there was a tremendous effort to look at all sides of the issue and I was quite satisfied with the final result. As for the streetcar thing.
Look, I know that there are plenty of people here who want a streetcar. I have always been an advocate for a light rail system. We disagreed on how it should have been funded, and for the most part, where it was going. I commend mayor Coleman for not giving up on the system, and the plan that was presented to the feds is a much better plan than the one that called for more general fund dollars to be used.
Still don’t see the racist and elitist portion of those posts.
Core, I couldnt agree with you more.