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Goodbye Fibres. More Rosendales to come
by David July 19, 2008
After several months of trying to find a new owner, Fibres at 791 N High has finally closed up shop. Taking Fibres place? Rosendales.
Mr. Rosendales expansion plans is to create a space, atmosphere and menu that is a bit more casual than his namesake.
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I love this trend of good chefs opening up more approachable places. I really, really enjoyed Michael Symon’s version (Lolita) in Cleveland. Hopefully this comes out similarly.
Agreed. I don’t go to Rosendales nearly as much as one might think, despite what I consider to be excellent food and wine, friendly and knowledgeable staff, etc. — basically everything I look for in a restaurant including proximity to home — simply because in the context of its sleek, tight, modern style I feel like I stick out like a shaggy sore thumb. If the nextdoor space is a little less attractive, I might feel like my presence won’t deface it.
The food at Rosendales doesn’t appeal to me in the least. It’s as though it’s different for the sake of being different. Look at the menus of Deepwoods and the Refrectory for example.
Paul
How about the red-headed lass that worked in Fibres. Going to miss seeing her through the window. :oops:
I’ve leveled this criticism against more than a few places, myself. The reason I hesitate to level it against Rosendales — while recognizing that informed opinion may of course differ — is that when I look at the menu I see someone doing something interesting, exploring tastes that can do surprising things together. I’m down with that. I mean, I do weird crap like infusing bacon into bourbon, for crying out loud, so when I see “Wild Mushroom and White Truffle Cappuccino Candied Shallot Rings” on the menu, my Spidey sense says that’s got potential. (Unlike, say, lobster foam.)
I love the food at Rosendales and am a huge fan of the smaller portions. With the exception of the bar, it doesn’t seem like the decor is up to snuff with the food. The space is wayyy too tight. The entrance/ hostess stand makes me nuts.
All these higher end restaurants and upscale clothing stores really have me thinking that the short north has become less of a neighborhood geared towards its own urban residents, and more of a suburban playground.
:lol:
I think I totally had that calculator when I was a kid Jon!
I was originally just going to say, “What an original observation” but I realized there something really interesting embedded in your post :
Suburban = money
Urban = poor
How … interesting.
A.
I was originally just going to say, “What an original observation” but I realized there something really interesting embedded in your post :
Suburban = money
Urban = poor
How … interesting.
A.
Also I’m pretty sure that Ibiza, The Dakota, The Jackson, etc. might feel differently on Short North not being geared toward residents. And I’m not sure how often you eat in Short North, but you can get a meal for under 10 bucks in about 20 different places.
I was originally just going to say, “What an original observation” but I realized there something really interesting embedded in your post :
Suburban = money
Urban = poor
How … interesting.
A.
If, by “interesting” you mean “true”, I agree.
Income studies are pretty clear on this, so I’m unsure what point you’re trying to make.
I was originally just going to say, “What an original observation” but I realized there something really interesting embedded in your post :
Suburban = money
Urban = poor
How … interesting.
A.
If, by “interesting” you mean “true”, I agree.
Income studies are pretty clear on this, so I’m unsure what point you’re trying to make.
While the average income in some of the ‘burbs is higher, that ignores the pockets of high wealth within the city itself. Just like any other city, the upper end businesses cater to a clientele who are enough to make a market while not being the majority of people. With the new developments in the SN, Arena and beyond, that market just keeps growing.
A.
I was originally just going to say, “What an original observation” but I realized there something really interesting embedded in your post :
Suburban = money
Urban = poor
How … interesting.
A.
If, by “interesting” you mean “true”, I agree.
Income studies are pretty clear on this, so I’m unsure what point you’re trying to make.
You may agree, doesn’t make it true. :roll:
There’s no foreclosures on my urban street. How many people in the suburbs can say that? My street is only 2 blocks long, but still!!!
This is backwards thinking that is outdated and no longer representative of what is currently happening in our urban areas. If urban is poor and suburb is rich, when will you be moving your establishment to Polaris?
This really has nothing to do with urban vs suburban. I think what was originally meant was that “fancy restaurants” seem out of place in an “artist neighborhood”.
But as people have pointed out, the demographics of residents in the Short North have been changing for some time now. The artists and bohemians who got the creative energy started in the Short North (both as residents and entrepreneurs) have been slowly priced out of the neighborhood for the past 10 years (and beyond). Nothing wrong with that either… it’s the natural evolution of neighborhoods like this. You can’t lock a neighborhood in a time capsule.
Rosendale’s isn’t out of place in the Short North. There are plenty there who can afford it.
I’d say Utrecht is probably the most out of place business in the entire Short North. I would have guessed that they would have relocated somewhere with cheaper rent and more artists nearby (maybe downtown near CCAD?) a few years ago.
Impressive, how quickly a short paragraph in the context of pre-existing urban-suburban sensitivities can take on a whole new life. I should just point out that, in its own terms, the paragraph in question –
– seems simply to be incorrect to me, given that people in the SN often talk about how difficult it is to get folks from the suburbs to visit their shops (the dreaded parking issue, and all that).
– seems simply to be incorrect to me, given that people in the SN often talk about how difficult it is to get folks from the suburbs to visit their shops (the dreaded parking issue, and all that).
Not to mention the grousing about the price of the condos being built in the area… and yet someone is (or actually a lot of someones are) buying them.
The idea that the urban core is impoverished is almost entirely outdated, and trending towards being just completely wrong.
if only Rigsby’s hadn’t opened 20+ years ago the place would still be a nice, affordable ghetto. people tend to have a highly personalized histories of the Short North. but high end dining has been part of the revitalization from the get-go. and when I meander into Rosendale’s, Rigsby’s, or Basi I tend to see, hmm, what are they called, oh yes, neighbors or people who live in the SN.
– seems simply to be incorrect to me, given that people in the SN often talk about how difficult it is to get folks from the suburbs to visit their shops (the dreaded parking issue, and all that).
Not to mention the grousing about the price of the condos being built in the area… and yet someone is (or actually a lot of someones are) buying them.
The idea that the urban core is impoverished is [i]almost[i] entirely outdated, and trending towards being just completely wrong.
Agreed. Also, someone posted an article yesterday from a national newspaper (cant’ remember who) that pointed out this exact fact.
I’ve heard so many good things about Lolita! Unfortunately I never really go to Cleveland…but if I head up I’ll definitely check it out! :-)
Didn’t Rosendales win “best reason to see a chiropractor” or something like that? I never really cared for the space, especially when you have beautiful restaurants like Marcella’s and Hyde Park down the street…
However, the food? It’s great. Simply amazing. I just can’t afford it!