Casino As Possible Solution For Ohio’s Economy?

By: Walker

54 Comments

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  CbusIslander June 10, 2008 2:42 pm

  The problem with the latest “gambling proposal” is that is allows gambling only for that one casino for the entire state. No others will be allowed. I wouldn’t mind supporting the issue if the amendment wouldn’t be so restricting. That has been the biggest problem getting these to pass.
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  Bear June 10, 2008 3:17 pm

  If you’re really all about personal responsibility and personal freedom and want to raise revenue for the state, it seems to me that you should be in favor of state-run whorehouses, not casinos. Casinos tend to redistribute money upward, from the poor to the rich, while whorehouses, especially high-end ones, are far more egalitarian, even progressive. Casinos are losing propositions for the vast majority of the customers, whereas in well-managed whorehouses everybody comes out ahead. Legal prostitutes also hold forth the promise of lowering the rate of unwanted or out-of-wedlock pregnancies. The proximity of the statehouse would be a good thing, too: vice-prone politicians would be selectively exposed and weeded out. And legalized prostitutes would certainly impose fiscal discipline on the city — they tend not to be willing to advance credit to anyone, regardless of the interest rate.
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  enzo June 10, 2008 3:28 pm

  Yes a Casino at City Center with a climbing gym, indoor golf driving range, indoor massive trampoline and ski run…and some other things to do during inclement weather—
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  Drew June 10, 2008 4:21 pm

  enzo wrote Yes a Casino at City Center with a climbing gym, indoor golf driving range, indoor massive trampoline and ski run…and some other things to do during inclement weather—

  Don’t forget colonics… :lol:

  Seriously, Enzo, I want some of whatever it is you’re ingesting…
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  JonMyers June 10, 2008 4:35 pm

  Sounds like Dubai. We need to start courting the Bio-Diesel Sheiks of the Mid-West.
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  JonMyers June 10, 2008 4:41 pm

  If the state wanted to make money on gambling and make the social ills of gambling someone else’s problem then might I suggest legalizing online gambling here. The state could challenge the 1964 wire act, which is being used to ban online gambling, establish a licensing scheme for companies that want to be payment processors here (the VISAs of gambling if you will) and take a big chunk via taxes of revenues that are passed through here.
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  enzo June 10, 2008 4:44 pm

  You guys might make fun, but I swear if someone opened a Tummy Temple here, you would make a mint!!
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  Bear June 10, 2008 5:00 pm

  enzo wrote You guys might make fun, but I swear if someone opened a Tummy Temple here, you would make a mint!!

  There’s an idea — the mint colonic.
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  enzo June 10, 2008 5:02 pm

  They do use herbs in Ayurvedic bastis which are much better for you than colonics…herb and oil infused enemas to balance doshas. I would love to see a cool casino with a high end spa at city center…like Bellaggio…
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  lazyfish June 10, 2008 6:16 pm

  Bear wrote If you’re really all about personal responsibility and personal freedom and want to raise revenue for the state, it seems to me that you should be in favor of state-run whorehouses, not casinos. Casinos tend to redistribute money upward, from the poor to the rich, while whorehouses, especially high-end ones, are far more egalitarian, even progressive. Casinos are losing propositions for the vast majority of the customers, whereas in well-managed whorehouses everybody comes out ahead. Legal prostitutes also hold forth the promise of lowering the rate of unwanted or out-of-wedlock pregnancies. The proximity of the statehouse would be a good thing, too: vice-prone politicians would be selectively exposed and weeded out. And legalized prostitutes would certainly impose fiscal discipline on the city — they tend not to be willing to advance credit to anyone, regardless of the interest rate.

  hookers and drugs, that will end the fiscal crisis! I have been to Nevada and along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi where Casinos dominate the economy, they have chased out the local mom and pop resturants, who cant compete with the subsidized buffets, they have destoyed the local non chain hotels. The general vibe of the populace is one of zombies, there is an air of desperation in these places that gives me the willies.

  do folks turn to the casinos when they admit they have no reasonable hope left?
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  Walker June 10, 2008 6:18 pm

  Enzo, please keep the colonics out of the more serious news discussions. That has nothing to do with this topic.

  Thanks,

  Walker
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  lifeontwowheels June 10, 2008 6:21 pm

  lazyfish wrote

  hookers and drugs, that will end the fiscal crisis! I have been to Nevada and along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi where Casinos dominate the economy, they have chased out the local mom and pop resturants, who cant compete with the subsidized buffets, they have destoyed the local non chain hotels. The general vibe of the populace is one of zombies, there is an air of desperation in these places that gives me the willies.

  do folks turn to the casinos when they admit they have no reasonable hope left?

  Funny, I remember eating at a great mom and pop Greek place in Detroit that sat right across from the casino.
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  lazyfish June 10, 2008 6:25 pm

  lifeontwowheels wrote
  

  lazyfish wrote

  hookers and drugs, that will end the fiscal crisis! I have been to Nevada and along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi where Casinos dominate the economy, they have chased out the local mom and pop resturants, who cant compete with the subsidized buffets, they have destoyed the local non chain hotels. The general vibe of the populace is one of zombies, there is an air of desperation in these places that gives me the willies.

  do folks turn to the casinos when they admit they have no reasonable hope left?

  Funny, I remember eating at a great mom and pop Greek place in Detroit that sat right across from the casino.

  in greektown? it may have been a connected mom and pop place, or just had the ambiance.
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  Bear June 10, 2008 6:27 pm

  lazyfish wrote
  

  lifeontwowheels wrote Funny, I remember eating at a great mom and pop Greek place in Detroit that sat right across from the casino.

  in greektown? it may have been a connected mom and pop place, or just had the ambiance.

  Or just been in Greektown, which is an attraction that rivals the casinos — a rare environment in which independent restaurants can thrive despite competition from casinos.
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  lifeontwowheels June 10, 2008 6:48 pm

  lazyfish wrote
  

  lifeontwowheels wrote
  

  lazyfish wrote

  hookers and drugs, that will end the fiscal crisis! I have been to Nevada and along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi where Casinos dominate the economy, they have chased out the local mom and pop resturants, who cant compete with the subsidized buffets, they have destoyed the local non chain hotels. The general vibe of the populace is one of zombies, there is an air of desperation in these places that gives me the willies.

  do folks turn to the casinos when they admit they have no reasonable hope left?

  Funny, I remember eating at a great mom and pop Greek place in Detroit that sat right across from the casino.

  in greektown? it may have been a connected mom and pop place, or just had the ambiance.

  It was straight up mom and pop Greek. There are a handful of places that, if done right, can blend casino style gambling with the local economy. I think Columbus has enough strength with our independent restaurants and support that we would not have an issue, if done right.
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  kvoltolini June 10, 2008 6:58 pm

  I used to live in Las Vegas and my husband and I will be moving back in January and it is a great place to live! There are TONS of mom and pop restaurants and different districts. When we lived there, we never went down to the strip unless we had visitors in town and they wanted to be dropped off there. There is a city there but most people never see it because they are only concentrated on one street for a few days. There is nothing wrong with world class spas, restaurants, etc…. It is nice to have this at your disposal. They can co-exist with the mom and pop places. They DO co-exist very nicely in this city because the people that live there understand that this is what America is all about; the big boys competing with the small boys. When you have citizens that frequent both and aren’t afraid to be adventurous it is a win-win for both. Here in Columbus, most people that live in the Polaris area would only eat at O’Charleys and think that is top notch. They would never go down to the Short North or other areas because they might see someone different than them. Not in Vegas. People have this perception of Vegas as gambling which yes, it is there. But, there is so much other wonderful things to do there. My husband and I don’t gamble at all and there are TONS of other activities to do there. Because of the gambling revenue (which the city, not the state, gets 2 billion dollars!!) the citizens that live there have the best schools, the best fire department and so on. When we lived there, the city and state had so much money left over that anyone that bought tags for their car received a check back in the mail with all of the fees reimbursed to them!
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  joev June 10, 2008 7:41 pm

  Columbus is not going to have a casino to rival the Las Vegas strip. It may get one to rival Erie. It will not have a Nobu or a high end spa or a climbing gym. It will have a buffet. To have these amenities, the casino has to be a year round draw for gamblers with a whole lot of money to blow. Does anyone really think a single Columbus casino could compete with Las Vegas’ dozens?
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  rory June 10, 2008 8:40 pm

  lazyfish wrote

  hookers and drugs, that will end the fiscal crisis! I have been to Nevada and along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi where Casinos dominate the economy, they have chased out the local mom and pop resturants, who cant compete with the subsidized buffets, they have destoyed the local non chain hotels. The general vibe of the populace is one of zombies, there is an air of desperation in these places that gives me the willies.

  do folks turn to the casinos when they admit they have no reasonable hope left?

  I agree. The atmosphere in Mississippi and other casino towns outside of Las Vegas is one of utter desperation, both on the part of the gamblers and the people who flock there for the horrible service jobs. I think it’s beneath us as Ohioans and we should aspire to something better. If we want out of our fiscal crisis and general Midwestern decline we should do it the old fashioned way; we can invent something, make something better, and generally out-smart the world. Just taking advantage of people who are desperate and can’t add or subtract isn’t a plan.
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  NerosNeptune August 25, 2008 10:23 am

  I hope this passes for Wilmington. They are soon to be a ghost town with DHL packing up and leaving.

  A Casino might not bring as many jobs, but it will at least contribute plenty of tax money to pay all the welfare and unemployment coming up.
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  UrbanApplachian August 25, 2008 3:28 pm

  I have to agree with the notion that Casino Gambling in Ohio could be seen as a “Stupid Tax”. Is Ohio so desperate that we can only come up with gambling as a means to create (low paying) jobs?

  What would set Ohio Casinos apart from the half dozen other places within a few hours drive? Has gambling really helped Kentucky,West Virginia or Indiana? We might as well legalize prostitution too. That way we would have something to make our Casinos stand out from the rest of the Midwestern competition.